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We have a failure to communicate. The spring that sets the tension is on the outside of the bobbin case. You can see a photo of it on this web page - for the Adler 205-370 compatible model HAD-204 Large barrel shuttle hook.

The spring you photographed is a beehive internal spring used to help eject bobbins from the case. Did you get an owner's manual or any documentation with your machine?

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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i finally figured out what you were talking about but after loosening the locking screw i tried to tighten the tension but only turned about 1/4 of a turn. so then i keep messing with it and rethreading the machine over and over.....i mistakenly forgot to run it through the top tensioner and it sewed so much better. so i ran it through the tensioner and bearly put any tension on it and the knots are alot less visible. I've been tweaking with it but it's so sensitive. moving the nob less than 1/4 makes a big difference..i just cant seem to make the stiches really nice and tight witout the knots show up on top...but i'll keep tweaking with it.

. this is such a great site filled with a great wleath of knowledge from you guys...thank you all

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Here is a close up shot of my shuttle, showing the bobbin thread coming out from under the bobbin case tension spring.

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The thread must feed through the diagonal slot in the case, until it passes under the center of the spring. The spring tension screw is visible on the upper right edge of the spring. If it is too tight to turn, locate the small set lock screw to one side, in a hole and loosen it. Adjust the tension downward for more pressure, until you have to exert a smooth, but definite pressure to pull the thread out of the case.

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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i was able to adjust the tension a little more on the bobbin and i finall got the top tensioner kinda set. the stiches look alot nicer and the knots aren't visible on either side. i just need to tweak it a little more because the stiches seem they could be tighter.

what does the tensioner on the side do? its got felt on each side of the case that the thread wraps around. is the case suppose to roll with the thread while its moveing or only the thread suppose to move and not the case together??

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That lower roller disk setup is to add a little more controlled top tension, or not. I usually run mine fairly loose, unless I'm sewing something very thick. Then, I'll twist on some spring tension on the bottom disk. You have to double wrap the thread around it for the tension to matter.

Get the bobbin tension right, then the top disks, then fine tune with the lower disks, if needed.

Also, if the check spring is way too strong, it affects the top tension.

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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well, after all your help i was able to get it dialed in good. i did adjust the bobbin tensioner with less and then messed with the top tensioner until the stiches started to look great..thanks Wizcrafts.

i'm afraid of moving anything now....lol but do you think i'll have to do this all over again when i need to change to 277..????

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