Singermania Report post Posted October 13, 2013 Hi, wanted to share this with no 6 enthusiasts, a few people have asked me about the heating systems on the Champion and also the no 6 and the Landis #1, I've really only had part systems before, ie some copper tubing, wax pots with pipes hanging off, tension units with pipe attachments etc. However I have finally located a machine that appears to have all the goodies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalLeatherDesigns Report post Posted October 14, 2013 Steve, That is a sweet machine, I yet need to see one with its kerosene lamp. Do you have any? Thanks for sharing these pictures with us it's not like whe can see them anywhere else. I think we can officially call you the Pearson Man. God Bless! Ralph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 14, 2013 HI Ralph, well that's high praise, literally music to my ears. I do think of myself as the main Pearson man in Australia. The top man with the greatest knowledge I believe though is Les in England, really no doubt about that. I'll attach a couple of photos for you of my two kerosene lamps from a No 6, took me years to find. I did find one a couple of years before these but it went missing in transit.... sadly.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordond Report post Posted October 14, 2013 Hi Steve..that's one intense showroom collection! I picked up a job lot over the weekend which had a Pearson 6 [well a BUSM HM6]..plus 7 other machines [Adler 205-64, Adler 30-1 patcher,Sole stitcher,another Singer 29K58-"grief that makes 3"+ pfaff545 and 2 other flatbeds]..and a heap of tools.One of those estate -back of barn buys "I couldn't resist" and the stuff has gone to my relatives until I claw back more space. thanks for sharing the photos! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 14, 2013 Wow, what a great find, wish I could find sales like that here.!!! Yes thats the back corner of my shed that houses the Pearsons and Pearson parts. You'll have to extend your list of machines on your profile. I have the Patent Elastik manual care of Black Dogg if you need it. Also this morning Dr Stark sent me the Adler 4&5 manual in German if you need that, I'd been looking for years for it. Regards Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordond Report post Posted October 15, 2013 hi Steve...yes ,I'm keen on manuals ,so yes thanks ; those would be great. I have a few original Singer...97 brochure book and class 7 manuals [&parts book].. lol!! , my "list" [started to look like a brag, but wasn't the intention]...served the purpose of getting dialogue from the members here. but half a page for a few words in a reply looked a bit absurd. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 15, 2013 Hi Gordon, yes I tend to go on a bit about my machines, I guess most of my life I've struggled and now that I can afford to have a few things I'm still excited about it and sometimes I reread my posts and think they sound braggish or conceited. I tried to send the Adler 4&5 manual to you but its too big, if you email me back I'll send it that way and any other manuals that I have you might like..... stevebonnett at dodo dot com dot au Likewise I've put on some fairly lengthy topics a couple of times with almost no response, a lot of people read but don't reply and you kinda worry that you've offended or bored or something else. Regards Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordond Report post Posted October 15, 2013 Hi Steve no offense taken...no worries..I intended to clip my avatar description for awhile. nah.. your posts sound fine to me. Likewise ,I have the same story..machinery ;when and only when you could find it, the price was #@!!!. thinking back in ~1984 saw an old Pearson for ?$7500 and that was a good deal[ it did sell for that and fast] I saw Black Dogg's post and have just downloaded the German manuals will email you thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undeadzombiehunter Report post Posted October 15, 2013 Steve, what a beauty, it looks like its out of some steampunk set. That that purchase mean you have to move another on? I thought i noticed you posting another pearson. Cheers, pal, Tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 15, 2013 Hi Tony, I'm down to 8 Pearsons at present in the 'big iron shed', the core items are the German, French, British and British for John O'Flarety in Canada, surplus French or British I sell off when someone enquires and then I can buy something else. My latest shipment has just landed at Brissie docks, there should be 3 Pearsons on that, a beautiful Champion on the bicycle treadle stand with the tractor seat, some Singer 133K8 and K17, Randall, Singer 11-20 long cylinger arm walking foot, riveters and guillotine on stands and some tools. After that in storage at the UK waiting for enough machines to send are 6 Pearson no 6 and a Singer 132K6. Best Regards Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undeadzombiehunter Report post Posted October 15, 2013 You caught my attention when you mentioned riveters. I just bought an old french fly press riveter. I ahve ordered some dies for snaps and double cap rivets, which I will machine to fit. I would love a foot press riveter, like the weaver heritage, but at $700 ex-usa, that is a bit steep. Please post picks of the riveters, just so i can drool a little. Tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 16, 2013 You caught my attention when you mentioned riveters. I just bought an old french fly press riveter. I ahve ordered some dies for snaps and double cap rivets, which I will machine to fit. I would love a foot press riveter, like the weaver heritage, but at $700 ex-usa, that is a bit steep. Please post picks of the riveters, just so i can drool a little. Tony Hi Tony, that;s a nice press, I often see them for sale overseas but can't justify the expense of shipping them here. I did have a picture of the riveter at one stage but have lost it, I think there are two riveters, a floor standing guillotine and the Randall all from the one place. The grandson of a saddler sold it all off at once along with other things I was too slow to score. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherstrap1 Report post Posted October 21, 2013 Wow Steve it's a good job you have good contacts in the uk. I'm glad you had quite a bit of stuff from this chap. But I do have to say sorry. The early bird gets the worm. The pilot is a wonderfull machine. If I see anymore I will let you know. Sheldon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 21, 2013 HI Sheldon, I have a few suppliers in Europe, this machine came from a new source, though I am about to collect from the docks from an older source another with some nice heating apparatus. Grrrrr... I can see that cheeky grin from here, yep you trounced me on the Pilot, but I live to search another day. Whats your tip for painting the gold lettering on the handwheel of the no 6 without plastering it all over the place? Did you see out bushfires in the Blue Mountains on the news?? its pretty bad. We go from floods to draughts to busfires here all in a season. Regards Steve Dont forget Sheldon, you're one of my contacts as you helped me get the Randall and the Pearson no 6 bobbin winder. Regards and thanks STeve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherstrap1 Report post Posted October 21, 2013 The gold I done on my #6 and the (grrrrrr) pilot was done with a steady hand and two sized nibs of a paint pen. I cheated a little but later I would love to do it with a lining brush. It seems to have worked ok for me but do take a fair bit of time to do Steve. If I see them on my travels I will pick a few up and carrier pigeon them to you if you like Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 21, 2013 thanks mate, I use a brush but its hard to control.. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Les No6 Report post Posted October 24, 2013 Very nice its quite remarkable to find one let alone in such condition they are easily damaged and most where striped out, usually all that remains is the odd peice of the heater. The best from a functional point of view was the bottom waxer this system only heats the shuttle block and dry thread is use on top, less mess and cleaning, and more efficient there's a good example of one on sale here http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=50923 although in the wrong section looks to be complete apart from the pipe connecting the water reservoir to the waxer, this is the one mentioned in the manual although no where near as cool looking. Pinstripping free hand is very difficult you are better off using tape http://www.pinstripinguk.com/tapes.htm or find someone that can do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 24, 2013 HI Les, yes its beautiful, I have the first arriving tomorrow and there should be a second just as good or better in a few weeks time, both pretty much complete. Otherwise its as you say, various machines with bits and pieces of tubing hanging off them. Thanks for the tip on pinstriping, I'll look it up. Any luck on the shuttle springs? don't forget I also need your address for the needles. regards STeve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I should have two machines coming with complete heating apparatus, one for my show area and maybe on to sell. They were expensive though so don't know whether anyone would be as silly as me to pay what they cost. Anyone having a machine like this will know its worth and not sell cheaply. Here is a frontal view of one of the machines I'm collectiong tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Les No6 Report post Posted October 25, 2013 HI Les, yes its beautiful, I have the first arriving tomorrow and there should be a second just as good or better in a few weeks time, both pretty much complete. Otherwise its as you say, various machines with bits and pieces of tubing hanging off them. Thanks for the tip on pinstriping, I'll look it up. Any luck on the shuttle springs? don't forget I also need your address for the needles. regards STeve Yes I've got all the right steel just haven't had time to make them up Ill have some time this week end, I've been helping a friend of mine set up an investment casting business which will be very handy so there may be some shuttles and feet coming along in the future made in Sheffield, England can't get a better address that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Les No6 Report post Posted October 25, 2013 I should have two machines coming with complete heating apparatus, one for my show area and maybe on to sell. They were expensive though so don't know whether anyone would be as silly as me to pay what they cost. Anyone having a machine like this will know its worth and not sell cheaply. Here is a frontal view of one of the machines I'm collectiong tomorrow. You've certainly got the Pearson bug Steve, when my mate is up and running with the casting I'm having some harness hard ware cast first Ill post the pictures of the harness and show you why you're not considered a harness maker in England unless you have a Pearson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalLeatherDesigns Report post Posted October 25, 2013 Steve, That is by far the most complete Pearson 6 I have ever seen. What should someone expect to pay for a wax pot for on eof these machines. Every machine I've seen for sale is missing the wax pot. Do you have any that you would sell? Congratulations on your purchases! Take care! Post more. It's of your latest buys.... Ralph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fivewayswelshcobs Report post Posted October 27, 2013 Hi Steve, I enjoy seeing your machine pictures as I need to learn a whole lot more about them as my BUSM no.6 is very much under used at present, if you happen to hear of a treadle here in the uk can you let me know as I want one but then I also want all the attachments I can find but then I would need to win the lottery as well. It seems to be some love the machines and others hate them, I like them as no brakes needed and they have more character than modern machines . I have wondered if you can put a slow motor on them but that is a different line of thought. We saw one being run on a stationary steam engine at a recent steam fair which was a little different but the chap knew nothing about the machine except it was old but it definitely was a BUSM machine as it was very similar to mine but I am not sure which model, couldn't get pictures as it was raining hard at the time. Sorry about the ramble but I have so many question they tend to arrive all at once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Singermania Report post Posted October 27, 2013 HI thanks for writing. I am also always learning more about the no 6, very often learning it from posts and other times from the machines when they come with varying and sometimes strange things hanging off them! I learn as I go, Les in England would be the most knowledgeable of all things BUSMC. I find most people love the no 6, however there is no doubt that it has an old look and to people with more modern thinking it can look dated and therefore not going to be as good.... not the case though. Yes you can put a motor on them, I have several stands here with motor brackets and the heavy original BUSMC clutch mechanisms that bolt thru the treadle and yet another that uses the old 'line' clutch from when they were all in a row being run from power either below or from above. Main thing is to make sure the gearing is there for slow running, its too heavy to run fast for very long. Sorry that I can't help you with a treadle, I have a list of people that want them but they are just so difficult to source on there own. Best Regards Steve Steve, That is by far the most complete Pearson 6 I have ever seen. What should someone expect to pay for a wax pot for on eof these machines. Every machine I've seen for sale is missing the wax pot. Do you have any that you would sell? Congratulations on your purchases! Take care! Post more. It's of your latest buys.... Ralph HI Ralph, no problem getting a wax pot to you, I have a few, its the heating chambers that are hard to find. You've certainly got the Pearson bug Steve, when my mate is up and running with the casting I'm having some harness hard ware cast first Ill post the pictures of the harness and show you why you're not considered a harness maker in England unless you have a Pearson. thanks Les, I think a need a bit more than a no 6 to make me a harness maker..... look forward to seeing that casting enterprise in action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherstrap1 Report post Posted November 3, 2013 Les Don't forget me when you and your mate are casting hardware because me and my uncle will no doubt want a few bits and bobs. Especially harness fittings Thanks Sheldon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites