glockanator Report post Posted October 21, 2013 I have been doing holsters for just over a year and a half. I have never bought anything other than Tandy leather. I am thinking of getting some HO but want the best bang for the buck. I have been using 6-7oz which I like but should I get back,belly,shoulder etc....thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PappyUSA Report post Posted October 21, 2013 I'd go for HO grade A or B sides or backs. I've bought HO from just about everybody that sell it and have found what Springfield calls grade B looks like the cow ran through a mine field. Weaver sells tannery run HO but that’s a crap shoot as well. From what I've found from actual purchasing experience is that Goliger has the best stuff there is in A & B grade HO unless you buy grade A's 10 at a time direct from HO. http://www.goligerleather.com/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) I'd go for HO grade A or B sides or backs. I've bought HO from just about everybody that sell it and have found what Springfield calls grade B looks like the cow ran through a mine field. Weaver sells tannery run HO but that’s a crap shoot as well. From what I've found from actual purchasing experience is that Goliger has the best stuff there is in A & B grade HO unless you buy grade A's 10 at a time direct from HO. http://www.goligerle....com/index.html Thank you. Finally, someone else who isn't afraid to say it. I've bought Tandy leather. And I've bought "B" grade HO from SLC (well, 'she' did). Some of the Springfield leather was actually pretty nice. Some of it, not so much. Yet, all marched "B". Edited October 21, 2013 by JLSleather Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PappyUSA Report post Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Thank you. Finally, someone else who isn't afraid to say it. I've bought Tandy leather. And I've bought "B" grade HO from SLC (well, 'she' did). Some of the Springfield leather was actually pretty nice. Some of it, not so much. Yet, all marched "B". I used to get good B's from SLC when they first started selling HO but after they started selling those little HO squares for the hobby trade I just couldn't get any good B's anymore. They looked like C's & D's. I quit buying leather from Weaver & SLC since I found Goliger. I still buy other stuff from Weaver, Tandy, & SLC but not leather. Edited October 21, 2013 by PappyUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Cent Report post Posted October 22, 2013 How would you guys rate this leather? http://www.zackwhite.com/8-10-oz-Vegetable-Tanned-Imported-Double-Shoulders-Mexico_p_3633.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PappyUSA Report post Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) How would you guys rate this leather? http://www.zackwhite...ico_p_3633.html I would be unfair for me to comment on it because I've never used shoulders from ZW but I did get some good horse butts from them a 2 or 3 years ago. And I found ZW just as easy and quick to deal with as most others. Edited October 22, 2013 by PappyUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chiefjason Report post Posted October 22, 2013 Back is good. Shoulder is good. Bellies are soft, spongy, fat wrinkled and how do I say this? Bad. At least for holsters. Patterns, maybe. I buy mine by the side now from Thoroughbred leather. I've bought from American Leather Direct too. Got good stuff from both. Had some recent hides with more flaws. From talking to a couple of makers and supplier it seems good hides are getting harder to come buy. I've bought at least one recently at a discount price because of brands and surface issues. But the HO I got wasn't much better anyway and was a good bit more on the price. If you are moving decent numbers, save up the money and start buying full sides or at least full backs (belly cut off). I do this on the side, and I finally decided to cut off all my spending that was not necessary. Then I ordered a couple sides. I'll never go back. I usually order 2-3 at a time now. FWIW, I prefer 8-9 oz on my leather holsters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jumpout Report post Posted October 22, 2013 I use double shoulders from Weaver and ask them to make the flesh side as smooth as possible. I have never had a problem with Weaver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Cent Report post Posted October 23, 2013 For cowboy competition, I use 8-9 out and a 4-5 liner. Same on the belt. I am not an expert on leather quality but the leather from Zack's does well and looks good (to me). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlapaglia Report post Posted October 23, 2013 I use 8-9 for OWB holsters and 6-7 or 8-9 for IWB holsters depending on the size of the gun. For a shield or Sig P938 6-7 works really well as an IWB. Buy a back or double shoulder, or single shoulder but stay away from Belly unless you are making something you want to really stretch. If you get shoulder watch the area near the neck. It can stretch almost as bad as a belly. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff L Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I used to get good B's from SLC when they first started selling HO but after they started selling those little HO squares for the hobby trade I just couldn't get any good B's anymore. They looked like C's & D's. I quit buying leather from Weaver & SLC since I found Goliger. I still buy other stuff from Weaver, Tandy, & SLC but not leather. How much are the A grade at Goliger? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PappyUSA Report post Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) The last one came in at $230.00 after shipping from Ca. to Tx. for a side and a little less for a back. Very little more $ than SLC & Weaver but much more quality. edit: I should have mentioned that the side was a rather large piece, close to 24 I think. Edited October 24, 2013 by PappyUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glockanator Report post Posted October 24, 2013 I emailed Golier and they said HO doesn't sell double shoulders. Foes anyone know what the average sq/ft is from Golier on shoulder pieces? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Goliger has HO "A" grade at $8.32/ft, at least for the full sides Edited October 24, 2013 by JLSleather Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SooperJake Report post Posted October 26, 2013 HO. Nothing better in my book. and get it from Ho direct if you can. I've tried Mexico tanned stuff and ran into dye issues. A white haze formed and I'm told it is/was because Mexican tanning uses some type of clay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites