triage1998 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 For the last 2 years I have been running Tippmann Boss. A decent machine but extremely finicky if the tension is not right. I have seen pictures of stitches from CB4500's and Cobra 4's and they look so much better than the Boss stitches. Some of the holsters I make are extremely hard to maneuver on the Boss. The throat clearance is horrible. I am ready to step up to the big leagues. I plan to spend around $3200.00 shipped on a machine soon. I have been looking at the Cowboy CB4500 and the Cobra Class 4-P. I mainly will be using it for holsters and belts but I may be stepping up to messenger bags, luggage, briefcases, and similar items in the next few years. Should I be looking at other models or are these the 2 standard for holster makers? Those with Cobra 4's or CB4500's, why did you choose one over the other? They seem to be very similar machines. Anyone regret getting one machine over the other? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troop Report post Posted March 17, 2014 go with the Cobra. I own two and Steve is the best at helping you out!! Tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin Report post Posted March 17, 2014 tagged Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Cent Report post Posted March 17, 2014 The C4 is awesome and Steve ain't too bad:). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Steve Report post Posted March 18, 2014 Thanks, guys! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
triage1998 Report post Posted March 18, 2014 Thanks, guys! Cobra Steve I will be giving you a call this week. I am am leaning towards the Cobra class 4-P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertmeco Report post Posted March 19, 2014 The Cobra 4-P is the machine I have and I really like it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eaglestroker Report post Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) I bought the Class 4 in November of '12. Best money I ever spent, second to none. Edited March 19, 2014 by Eaglestroker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
triage1998 Report post Posted March 24, 2014 Just talked to Steve and ordered the Cobra 4-P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobo Report post Posted March 25, 2014 Just talked to Steve and ordered the Cobra 4-P You will not regret that decision. There are only a few machine designs available, and several of the machines offered by various sources are all based on the same machine head (differences in motors, tables or stands, etc). The primary difference, in my opinion, is the level of customer service provided by the company involved, both before and after the sale. Steve at Leather Machine Company has exceeded every expectation. The Cobra Class 4 machine in my shop is now in its 4th year of service, has presented no serious maintenance issues, and shows every indication that it will outlive me. I would not hesitate to purchase another, or any other equipment that Steve might recommend for my needs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Steve Report post Posted March 25, 2014 THanks again guys! Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed in Tx Report post Posted March 26, 2014 Ditto on the Cobra 4 P package. I bought mine about 2 years ago and have never had a problem. I had never used a sewing machine in my life until I bought the Cobra, within about a week I was able to sew fairly well and within a month was doing whatever I needed. Sure makes life a lot easier no question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rayban Report post Posted March 28, 2014 The Cobra is brown....the Cowboy is gray......the only difference.......get the one that's closest to your hair color....and the closest to you for shipping cost savings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites