pabloz Posted May 25, 2014 Report Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Dear all, I am exceedingly thankful for all y'all that have an appreciation for our work. It is truly a joy to my heart to see what others think of Rosa and I and our products. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!! When something like this occurs it is a clear testament to the honesty and integrity of some and the blantant lack thereof on the part of others. Mike, Sam, Johanna, Keenan, Camano Ridge...you're the GREATEST!!!! Macca, Yes we do ship to Europe. I would be honored to build a knife for you. Stay SHARPER, Paul & Rosa Zalesak Edited May 25, 2014 by pabloz Paul Zalesak Leather Wranglers Inc. www.leatherwranglers.com
Members tossik Posted May 25, 2014 Author Members Report Posted May 25, 2014 Well this escalated quickly! I did not come here to upset anyone or to sell things under others names. I never said they were original designs. I said they the style was from online. For me a tool is a tool. My brother does not make knives as a business. He made them for me because I know he makes great things. The only reason I am selling them because they are 5" and I want something close to 3-4" blade. For people that found where the design came from- thank you for bringing the credit into this post. They do great work, and deserve all the credit. I am not here to sell hundreds of these knives. I have 2. I don't want to sell to someone that just wants them out from the internet because the design is a copy (go on ebay and see copies). I want this tool to be used by someone that will appreciate it, and not hate on it. My brother spent a lot of time working on them, so I want the tools to go to the right home. To be fair, most blades are copies of other blades. So, even if my brother would have changed the design a bit, there would always be someone that would say that the blade is a copy of something else. If a blade is super unique then put a patent on it. Otherwise, expect copies of it. Thank you all.
Members Cyberthrasher Posted May 25, 2014 Members Report Posted May 25, 2014 Hey Tossik. Those really are beautiful and an excellent price. I'd love to add them both to my bench. I'm kind of a knife whore I'll send you a PM now. hellhoundkustoms.wordpress.com www.facebook.com/hellhoundkustoms www.etsy.com/shop/HellhoundKustoms
pabloz Posted May 25, 2014 Report Posted May 25, 2014 If they wanted to protect their design, they should've patented it. That is the way it works in this country. I've made unique items that people have blatantly ripped off before and no one cares. I explained to everyone that I was the one that came up with a particular design for some tools and was told either get a patent or shut up. So.....all your goading of the OP probably won't do any good. People are going to copy other people's designs and sell them. It happens all the time on here and everywhere else and there's nothing anyone here can do to stop it. LTC, Consult your local Intellectual Property Attorney and you'll find that unfortunately there are some things that simply are not Patentable. But then again, if I was a photographer I would copyright all my work, which the OP probably does giving him a full understanding of infringement concerning "original works." I empathize with you on your ideas being stolen and that in your case "no one cares" but I am also extremely thankful that in this case there are those that do care and have chosen to take action and do something they see as morally fitting for the occasion..... SO as I see it there is nothing for anyone to tell them to "shut up" about. If you ever need an Intellectual Property Attorney to get one of your ideas patented I can make several refferals as I am surrounded by research labs, advanced technology centers, etc. with plenty of legal counsel easily accessible. Also, as I see it, "all your goading of the OP" has done some good, at least from what the OP's response was toward acknowledging credit. PERSONALLY, if my brother made these for me there is absolutely no way I would sell them.....PERIOD...but that's just me. I treasure thing like that. And YES you're correct "It happens all the time on here and everywhere else" but again there are some who don't need a law (patent laws implicated here) to do the honorable thing. There have been many leathercrafters, knife makers, wood workers, machinists, etc. whose work I have admired and have asked permission to make one for myself, my wife, a friend, my brother, sister, whatever and have never been turned down. As a matter of fact, a few have become very close friends and we now collaborate on various projects. This is the sort of thing Sam was reffering to earlier. Hopefully this will help to instill a little more confidence toward an ethical standard that exceeds what laws dictate or on the other extreme "honor amoung thieves." PZ Paul Zalesak Leather Wranglers Inc. www.leatherwranglers.com
Members tossik Posted May 26, 2014 Author Members Report Posted May 26, 2014 Both knives are SOLD. Thank you all. I'll come back if I get more knives to share.
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