Problem With Eco-Flo Gel Antique

[facok]

Hi

I recently applied a Eco-Flo Gel Antique on a veg tan product I did, buffed it to get rid of the excess, waited for a day to dry .then proceeded to apply C Wax,the next thing i noticed was that the it was all coming of, showing all sort of streaks on the leather .

And i noticed it if comes in contact with water.

Have i missed anything in my process,if yes what should I be doing.

Appreciate the help I can get

cheers

ayo

[billybopp]

Same thing for me. Even after sealing with several layers and several products. I'm done with Tandy gel antique.

Bill

[Hi Im Joe]

I have used both the Tan and the Mahogany and have never had these problems.

[billybopp]

I like the color you get from the Mahogany, Saddle Tan and Tan antique gels. But I made some arm bands using Mahogany and Saddle Tan. They seemed fine until I wore them on a hot and sweaty day. I now have nice marks on my arms where the dye bled profusely, through about three layers of Resolene. So it's certainly a no-go for that sort of thing from now on for me.

Bill

[billybopp]

I really like the gel Mahogany, saddle tan and tan. It always smears a little bit with the first coat of sealer, but usually that's not too bad. Some months ago, I made some arm bands using Mahogany and Saddle Tan with 2-3 coats of resolene to seal. They seemed to be fine until I wore them out a few weeks ago as the weather got hot and sweaty. The dye bled profusely with sweating and left me with some lovely colored stripes on my arms. While I was able to get the dye mostly off when I got home, it was not a good day! I'll find something else to use for that sort of thing from now on.

Bill

[Sona]

Well the bleeding thing is one reason I prefere the prof. line of Fiebings right now. But I also use and used the antique gels from time to time.
I had this problem just once. The gel didn´t want to stick to the leather, because the sponge I used to "case" the leather (was´t real casing that days, but I made it wet ^^) was the sponge I used to apply some wax on another project before. So the problem was that I sort of sealed the piece before applying the gel. For the cuts that´s no problem, but I wanted to dye the hole piece with the gel which was... sort of not possible anymore ^^.

I really don´t know whether this might be your problem, maybe not.... but it´s worth a look as I didn´t understand it that day at all.....

[FaireLeatherFriend]

I use love the Gel Antiques and use them regularly. I have never had issue with them coming off, cracking or anything. I also seal almost exclusively with SuperSheen. I use the Gels by them self, over Cova Paints, Colored dyes and with resists and love the way it comes out. If you look at my gallery, you'll see a LOT of antiquing. As to your issue, I agree with Sona that is sounds like you had some form of a resist on there to block color. I'd keep trying.

[fatbob1945]

I use the medium brown a lot on belts and billfolds. After the antique dries for a few minutes I have been using the Tandy Tan-Kote and then after it dries I use Kiwi saddle soap in a can and brush it after the saddle soap dries with a shoe shine brush till it shines and it works for me especially since I am on a tight budget.

[Icarus]

I primarily use the Gel Antiques. I had the same problem of having the dye being drawn out as I ran my sponge filled with finish over it. Here's the solution I came up with, and after figuring it out I wouldn't use any other method. I use an air brush with a 50/50 acrylic resolene/water mix. I never have bleeding issues. The only time I get cracking is if I have pieces that require LOTS of movement (like trying to make lace and braiding it.)

[miel zaphia]

Probably a bit late to comment on this forum but can report very similar issues with the Tandy Antique Gels. I absolutely love the colour the the Saddle Tan Antique Gel and used it on several products, one being a cuff I planned to wear for my friends wedding: sealed it with several coats of tan note and wore it on a hot summer day for a couple hours and sure enough the dye was bleeding through the finish onto my arm! I happen to love this cuff so i tried making a dubbin to apply over the finish as an extra layer of protection- this stuff is virtually waterproof. Wore it out again, and the Antique gel bled through once again- a lot less but still bleeding. This just won't do if I ever plan to sell these items i can't take the risk of it rubbing off on someones crisp white shirt.

I've tried sealing it with Fiebings acrylic resolene and an extra coat of my homemade dubbin as a precautionary measure on a dog leash I made for a friend. It just seems a shame to waste all this Gel I bought as I have it in several colours. So far they have reported no rub off. If only I could find an antique stain that offered a similar vibrant saddle tan colour.

If anyone is using these Antique Gel on heavy wear items and has found a good sealant for it please let me know. Also

would love to see an item dyed with the Fiebings Antique Paste in Saddle Tan to compare. Thanks