Members facok Posted July 5, 2014 Members Report Posted July 5, 2014 Hi I recently applied a Eco-Flo Gel Antique on a veg tan product I did, buffed it to get rid of the excess, waited for a day to dry .then proceeded to apply C Wax,the next thing i noticed was that the it was all coming of, showing all sort of streaks on the leather . And i noticed it if comes in contact with water. Have i missed anything in my process,if yes what should I be doing. Appreciate the help I can get cheers ayo Quote
Members billybopp Posted July 5, 2014 Members Report Posted July 5, 2014 Same thing for me. Even after sealing with several layers and several products. I'm done with Tandy gel antique. Bill Quote
Members Hi Im Joe Posted July 5, 2014 Members Report Posted July 5, 2014 I have used both the Tan and the Mahogany and have never had these problems. Quote http://www.sevenhillsleather.com/
Members billybopp Posted July 5, 2014 Members Report Posted July 5, 2014 I like the color you get from the Mahogany, Saddle Tan and Tan antique gels. But I made some arm bands using Mahogany and Saddle Tan. They seemed fine until I wore them on a hot and sweaty day. I now have nice marks on my arms where the dye bled profusely, through about three layers of Resolene. So it's certainly a no-go for that sort of thing from now on for me. Bill Quote
Members billybopp Posted July 5, 2014 Members Report Posted July 5, 2014 I really like the gel Mahogany, saddle tan and tan. It always smears a little bit with the first coat of sealer, but usually that's not too bad. Some months ago, I made some arm bands using Mahogany and Saddle Tan with 2-3 coats of resolene to seal. They seemed to be fine until I wore them out a few weeks ago as the weather got hot and sweaty. The dye bled profusely with sweating and left me with some lovely colored stripes on my arms. While I was able to get the dye mostly off when I got home, it was not a good day! I'll find something else to use for that sort of thing from now on. Bill Quote
Members Sona Posted July 6, 2014 Members Report Posted July 6, 2014 Well the bleeding thing is one reason I prefere the prof. line of Fiebings right now. But I also use and used the antique gels from time to time.I had this problem just once. The gel didn´t want to stick to the leather, because the sponge I used to "case" the leather (was´t real casing that days, but I made it wet ^^) was the sponge I used to apply some wax on another project before. So the problem was that I sort of sealed the piece before applying the gel. For the cuts that´s no problem, but I wanted to dye the hole piece with the gel which was... sort of not possible anymore ^^.I really don´t know whether this might be your problem, maybe not.... but it´s worth a look as I didn´t understand it that day at all..... Quote
Members FaireLeatherFriend Posted July 25, 2014 Members Report Posted July 25, 2014 I use love the Gel Antiques and use them regularly. I have never had issue with them coming off, cracking or anything. I also seal almost exclusively with SuperSheen. I use the Gels by them self, over Cova Paints, Colored dyes and with resists and love the way it comes out. If you look at my gallery, you'll see a LOT of antiquing. As to your issue, I agree with Sona that is sounds like you had some form of a resist on there to block color. I'd keep trying. Quote
Members fatbob1945 Posted August 2, 2014 Members Report Posted August 2, 2014 I use the medium brown a lot on belts and billfolds. After the antique dries for a few minutes I have been using the Tandy Tan-Kote and then after it dries I use Kiwi saddle soap in a can and brush it after the saddle soap dries with a shoe shine brush till it shines and it works for me especially since I am on a tight budget. Quote
Members Icarus Posted August 17, 2014 Members Report Posted August 17, 2014 I primarily use the Gel Antiques. I had the same problem of having the dye being drawn out as I ran my sponge filled with finish over it. Here's the solution I came up with, and after figuring it out I wouldn't use any other method. I use an air brush with a 50/50 acrylic resolene/water mix. I never have bleeding issues. The only time I get cracking is if I have pieces that require LOTS of movement (like trying to make lace and braiding it.) Quote
Members miel zaphia Posted January 29, 2015 Members Report Posted January 29, 2015 Probably a bit late to comment on this forum but can report very similar issues with the Tandy Antique Gels. I absolutely love the colour the the Saddle Tan Antique Gel and used it on several products, one being a cuff I planned to wear for my friends wedding: sealed it with several coats of tan note and wore it on a hot summer day for a couple hours and sure enough the dye was bleeding through the finish onto my arm! I happen to love this cuff so i tried making a dubbin to apply over the finish as an extra layer of protection- this stuff is virtually waterproof. Wore it out again, and the Antique gel bled through once again- a lot less but still bleeding. This just won't do if I ever plan to sell these items i can't take the risk of it rubbing off on someones crisp white shirt. I've tried sealing it with Fiebings acrylic resolene and an extra coat of my homemade dubbin as a precautionary measure on a dog leash I made for a friend. It just seems a shame to waste all this Gel I bought as I have it in several colours. So far they have reported no rub off. If only I could find an antique stain that offered a similar vibrant saddle tan colour. If anyone is using these Antique Gel on heavy wear items and has found a good sealant for it please let me know. Also would love to see an item dyed with the Fiebings Antique Paste in Saddle Tan to compare. Thanks Quote
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