Members Splash Posted November 13, 2014 Members Report Posted November 13, 2014 for the start stitches, yes. I dont glue, I burn the tips at the end. I use 277 in both thread and bobbin Quote Ray U.S. Army Retired A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'My Country' for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Members cleanview Posted November 13, 2014 Author Members Report Posted November 13, 2014 Well here is progress. Still needs practice. this is the method that splash talked about. If i got it right here is what I did. Start with out any backstitch.......came around to finish the circle and just stitched over the first three stitches then burned the threads. Seems to have worked but still needs practice. the hardest part is not being able to see the needle as it pierces the leather. My pressor foot (or piece that the needle goes through if I got the name wrong) blocks that view. i saw video of another machine that you could see the needle as it entered the leather and that would sure make it easier to hit the hole. Quote Amarillo Texas bambamholsters.com
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted November 14, 2014 Contributing Member Report Posted November 14, 2014 CV.. I like a 24 needle, personally. And if you're stitching a couple layers of 8 oz, I wouldn't go much tighter than 6/inch -- much beyond that and you're weakening the seam, not strengthening it. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members cleanview Posted November 14, 2014 Author Members Report Posted November 14, 2014 Super cool! I just sewed a cowboy western belt that I am going to use for a daily work belt. The wife walked in and said " your done! You did not even get to watch a movie!" That belt would have been at least a 2 hour movie. Quote Amarillo Texas bambamholsters.com
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted November 14, 2014 Contributing Member Report Posted November 14, 2014 I take a little bit different route than most. Even on pieces that are sewn with my Boss, I "back tack" by hand, and use a saddle stitch. I have had regular backstitching come loose due to very high stress...I guess it's either a statement on just how strong the thread is, or how week the back stitch was. Since I started hand sewing the last few stitches to lock everything down, I've had zero problems, even in similar situations. I always add a half stitch so that the threads end up on the back of the piece, and just heat the thread nubs with a lighter and mash them down into the other threads. Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
Members cleanview Posted November 14, 2014 Author Members Report Posted November 14, 2014 I want to be clear I understand (be patient with me) 1. More than 6 stitches per inch is a problem? 2. The machine can pull the stitches into the leather I mean tension compared to hand stitching. 3. The information end of this machine is limited to what you can find on youtube. that has been a discouragement to say the least. the pictures in the worthless manual have no detail at all. I was sure I tightened the tension until I watched another video that made me think I tightened the wrong thing. 4. It seems like I should be able to get the bobbin thread to draw in a little more. My mind says that takes place adjusting the tension. The manual says don't. So I did just a little. 5. I have yet to see an answer if there is a way to "fix" mistakes that I will inevitably make with the machine. I know this a all the same forum but the interaction is better in the holster part. Hope you dont mind my machine questions Quote Amarillo Texas bambamholsters.com
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted November 14, 2014 Contributing Member Report Posted November 14, 2014 Stitching makes a tear in the leather. Put enough small tears, close enough together, and you have a slice. So, there's some debate about the number of times you can do this without a problem. Simple terms, larger needle makes a larger slice, so the same spacing causes a tear sooner due to the larger diameter of the needle. 10 per inch with a 16 needle is fine. 10 per inch with a 25 needle doesn't leave much material left between the "stitches" (filling the hole with thread doesn't equal the same thing). A word about the machine suppliers around here. They are exactly that.. SUPPLIERS. They do not make the machines, and know enough about the machines to SELL them. What is the BRAND of your machine? Who is the MANUFACTURER? Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members malabar Posted November 14, 2014 Members Report Posted November 14, 2014 Cleanview, Pretty much ANY Question you have about that machine can be answered here or in the Leather Sewing Machine forum. These folks use these machines every day and know them inside and out. As you can gather from the comments, there are a bunch of ways of dealing with the same issues. Find what works for you. One bit of advice: It's really important to get the correct combination of needle size and thread size for the type and thickness of leather that you're sewing. As Denster said, stuffing too much thread into a hole will create problems. If you have issues with the bottom of your stitches and you can't cure it with technique, try moving to a larger needle. tk Quote
Members Splash Posted November 14, 2014 Members Report Posted November 14, 2014 I want to be clear I understand (be patient with me) 1. More than 6 stitches per inch is a problem? 2. The machine can pull the stitches into the leather I mean tension compared to hand stitching. 3. The information end of this machine is limited to what you can find on youtube. that has been a discouragement to say the least. the pictures in the worthless manual have no detail at all. I was sure I tightened the tension until I watched another video that made me think I tightened the wrong thing. 4. It seems like I should be able to get the bobbin thread to draw in a little more. My mind says that takes place adjusting the tension. The manual says don't. So I did just a little. 5. I have yet to see an answer if there is a way to "fix" mistakes that I will inevitably make with the machine. I know this a all the same forum but the interaction is better in the holster part. Hope you dont mind my machine questions 1. Yes; JLS could not explain it any better 2. yes/no. the bobbin thread gets pulled into the leather by the top thread, when the correct tension is apply to both, they both meet in the middle. see pic. 3. See JLS comment 4. Yes, see pic Quote Ray U.S. Army Retired A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'My Country' for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Members Red Cent Posted November 14, 2014 Members Report Posted November 14, 2014 Your stitches depict a reverse twist point needle. I use the S needle - narrow cross point. Here is a site that is really informative about needles.http://www.schmetzneedles.com/learning/pdf/leather-needles.pdf Quote https://www.facebook.com/redcentcustomleather?ref=bookmarks http://www.redcentcustomleather.com/
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