retiredff Report post Posted December 13, 2014 I lurked here for a while and have just started experimenting with dyes and antiquing (been practicing my stitching). Many post there work here and use 3D stamps, PARTS of the stamped area are darker from dye or antique and other parts are natural looking. Is this done with resist alone or something else I haven't discovered yet? Can I cover a project with a light color stain or dye, then resist parts then antique the whole thing? As an example; using any 3D stamp, stamp the project, apply light color dye to the whole piece, resist the areas the you want, the apply a darker dye or antique. Does this work? I read here some people water down the antique paste, I didn't realize it is water based. Maybe I should read the label. I'm really looking for ways to enhance the color of the 3D stamps I have while dying the rest of the project. If I use a stamp then dye it brown or black it almost disappears, I want it to stand out. Thanks Tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 14, 2014 Does anyone use 3D stamps on your leather projects? If you do how do you bring them out? When I dyed the piece of leather with a stamp design it sort of disappears or blends in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texback Report post Posted December 15, 2014 A couple of ways to highlight are to apply a resist to the areas you want to keep lighter and let it dry well before you proceed. Resolene mixed 50/50 with water or a liquid latex painted on the areas you want lighter colored are a couple that come to mind. I use either a fine tip brush or airbrush to apply resolene depending on what I want to stand out. I think there are other ways that some of the folks on here use. I haven't used the liquid latex but I understand you need to paint several coats to build it up, then dye or highlight and then carefully peel the latex off when dry. You can dye a lighter color or leave the leather its natural color either way. A word of caution about using resolene.....in my experience spirit based dyes will cut the resolene and I ended up with the whole project dyed the darker color. Do a search on here for block dying or highlighting. I know I have seen some threads with this information. Maybe some folks with far more experience will chime in. Hope this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 15, 2014 I tried pro clear from SLC and I didn't let it dry long enough. I'm going to try tonight applying a resist to a paper town then press my 3D stamp onto it then using an arbor press the stamp into cased leather. After 24 hrs. I see what happens. I found some latex some have spoke of here, I'll get some. I'll search for block dying, I've read threads about the highlighting. Thanks for the reply. I knew there had to be a solution, I am a newb and haven't figured a lot of this out yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) I found a tutor on block dying and I also read about reverse block dying. Is this correct: say I have a piece that has a centered celtic symbol and I want parts of it red and the rest of the piece black. 1 - dye celtic symbol red and wait till dry and buff 2 - use a lighter color of acrylic paint and daub into the design hitting mainly the lower portions of the design 3 - reverse block dye and remove the lighter color from higher parts of the design and let dry 4 - dye rest of piece black excluding the design I suppose I could also reverse this and paint the acrylic into the recessed areas then block dye the symbol? Is this correct? Should I use latex to protect the design after block or reverse dying and the symbol is done before dying the rest of the piece - just in case? Hopefully the acrylic paint will adhere to the dyed part of the symbol. Can I use any finish I want or because of the paint/dye is there something else I should use? Thanks Tony Edited December 15, 2014 by retiredff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 15, 2014 Nope, won't work. The paint sticks to the dyed part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Drakkon Report post Posted December 15, 2014 Have you tried dying and then very carefully going over it with a light grit sandpaper? That might highlight the raised areas, but would probably change the texture. It's something to try, anyways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 15, 2014 Here is my problem. I'm a retired FireFighter and have a stamp of a FireFighters Maltese cross. Normally these are RED with a silver (black may work also) outline where the deep outline depressions are. I'm trying to duplicate this color scheme on leather. For some reason this cross is baffling me. I have celtic symbols and I can see how to do these by dying a light color first over the whole stamp then block dye the raised parts. I can't figure the cross out. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Drakkon Report post Posted December 15, 2014 If it's a silver background, have you thought about using silver leaf? You would stamp as normal, dye the cross red and not worry about any bleed over onto the background, and then paint the background with sizing, let it get tacky and lay on the silver leaf. It works great on leather, made a mask completely covered in it: http://ranasp.deviantart.com/art/Complete-Silver-Dragon-Mask-5411318 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 15, 2014 is this technique very time consuming and expensive? I may look for a different color combination where I can use a hi-light stain. Thanks for the info, I will look into it. The mask looks great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDAZ Report post Posted December 16, 2014 Try metallic silver acrylic paint from the craft store. Works great, inexpensive and lasts. Cya! Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 16, 2014 Thanks Bob. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayers Garage Report post Posted December 16, 2014 You'd be surprised how well a Sharpie marker works to outline detailed stuff. I also do fire gear and use a black Sharpie around all my letters. It don't come off and it's very easy to get nice results when you use ultra fine tip Sharpies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 16, 2014 I'll buy some sharpies, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayers Garage Report post Posted December 16, 2014 Here's a little glove strap I did yesterday with the Sharpie method. The red dye I airbrushed simply because it's about the only way I can apply it and keep it smooth over the entire length. Then the black I applied with a brush. Then a Sharpie to touch up the grooves around the numbers. The Sharpie hasn't ever bled or caused me any problems under the TanKote or whatever topcoat I've used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 16, 2014 I'm just learning this 'hobby' and have a lot to learn and more practice and experimenting. I have an airbrush, but only used it to do some practice lines. I run it off of a tank only, then when it gets low I have to drag it to the garage and fill it. I am looking at airbrush compressor/tanks for purchase maybe next year. This 'hobby' sure is expensive! I bought a pack of sharpies that have fine & extra fine tips. I'll test them soon. BTW nice strap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDAZ Report post Posted December 16, 2014 One of the really big markers can be used for "block" coloring of 3D stamps. You can also use metallic sharpies and brush them along the raised part of the stamp..I also use the big markers for edge coloring. Cya! Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 16, 2014 Yea Bob I have a big black sharpie I use for edge coloring. I never thought of using sharpies for detail work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Drakkon Report post Posted December 16, 2014 A warning about sharpies: they aren't always light fast. Saw a big discussion with framers on how they've seen a lot of stuff over the years that was signed with a sharpie only for it to fade horribly when exposed to light over time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retiredff Report post Posted December 17, 2014 I bought a ultra fine black sharpie, it worked great for what I need. I'll buy a kit with many colors next time. What is the difference between the regular sharpie and the oil opaque sharpie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites