Members Tallbald Posted December 17, 2014 Members Report Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) At least one commercial holster maker I know of uses what I think are called "safety snaps" that have an indentation in the cap denoting the only direction in which the snap can be undone. This is a safety feature I like. I don't know if there's another name for these kind of snaps, but am having no luck searching for them here for reference or in some leather suppliers catalog websites to buy. Could someone please tell me the correct name for these and where they can be bought? Or maybe they are exclusively made for the commercial big guys (?).Thanks. Don Edited December 17, 2014 by Tallbald Quote
Members 25b Posted December 17, 2014 Members Report Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Those are called "pull-the-dot" snaps. Not to be confused with "DOT" snaps (manufacturer name). Edited December 17, 2014 by 25b Quote
Members camano ridge Posted December 17, 2014 Members Report Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) What you are looking for are pull the Dot snaps made by the DOT fastner company. http://www.dotfasteners.com/pull_the_dot.html%C2'> The problem is that you have to buy each of the four pieces seperately in lots of 100 each when you buy them direct. You can get complete sets on ebay for around $18.00 for I think 10 sets . They are a fair bit more expensive then standard line 24 snaps. Edited December 17, 2014 by camano ridge Quote
Members Tallbald Posted December 17, 2014 Author Members Report Posted December 17, 2014 Ouch! Thank you. Don Quote
Members cleanview Posted December 17, 2014 Members Report Posted December 17, 2014 they are great but pricey Quote
Members Dwight Posted December 17, 2014 Members Report Posted December 17, 2014 On 12/17/2014 at 4:35 AM, Tallbald said: At least one commercial holster maker I know of uses what I think are called "safety snaps" that have an indentation in the cap denoting the only direction in which the snap can be undone. This is a safety feature I like. I don't know if there's another name for these kind of snaps, but am having no luck searching for them here for reference or in some leather suppliers catalog websites to buy. Could someone please tell me the correct name for these and where they can be bought? Or maybe they are exclusively made for the commercial big guys (?).Thanks. Don Hey, TB, . . . how many do you need? May God bless, Dwight Quote
Members chiefjason Posted December 19, 2014 Members Report Posted December 19, 2014 Springfield leather sells single sets too. Keep in mind the caps come in different post lengths and covers. A lot of times I just swap out the cap from a Line 24, they look more generic than the ones I got from Dot. And I got the short ones. Quote
Members Bolt Vanderhuge Posted December 19, 2014 Members Report Posted December 19, 2014 I do the same. The ones that came in my set are to short most of the time. Quote
Boriqua Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 I have a couple of hundred sets of regular line 24 snaps from dot. I watched a video on setting the "pull the dot" fastner and it looks like the only unique part is the socket. Do I have that right? Can I just order a bunch of sockets and use the three other parts from my regular kit. Only thing I could see losing is the "pull the dot" print on the socket head. Thanks for any info! Alex Quote
Members Shooter McGavin Posted January 12, 2015 Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 The stud portion is quite different as well to work with the socket. Quote
Members Bolt Vanderhuge Posted January 12, 2015 Members Report Posted January 12, 2015 The studs are sometimes different too. I have 3 different Tandy sets where only one set's stud works with the POT sockets. So I order the sockets and studs from the POT line but order caps from the Durable line in several lengths. Since I screw the studs on I buy just the posts of Chicago screw sets and then various length 8/32 flat machine screws. Quote
Members Arcturus Posted January 29, 2015 Members Report Posted January 29, 2015 So, this question was close enough I didnt want to start a new thread.... Where do folks find the snaps with the metal reinforcement for using on thumb break holsters? Its a snap with a small piece of metal to reinforce the break. Quote
Members usmc0341 Posted January 29, 2015 Members Report Posted January 29, 2015 They are stiffeners that you attach under the snap. Blue gun store sells them. http://www.bluegunstore.com/thumbstiffenersbreaks.aspx I've heard of people making there own out of very thin metal, but I just order mine from BGS. Quote
Members Arcturus Posted January 29, 2015 Members Report Posted January 29, 2015 Great, thanks for the quick response! Quote
Members camano ridge Posted January 29, 2015 Members Report Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) High Desert Leather also has them http://highdesertleather.com/?product_cat=diy Both Rob Bennett of the Blue Gun Store and LVN Leatherworker of High Desert Leather are members on these forums. Edited January 29, 2015 by camano ridge Quote
Members Shooter McGavin Posted February 5, 2015 Members Report Posted February 5, 2015 Ive been using kydex for the stiffeners. Quote
Members longtooth Posted February 5, 2015 Members Report Posted February 5, 2015 Along these lines what is every one using to put the little dimple in the cap. I checked around for a die for my arbor press and they want between 150.00 and 180.00 for the die. Quote
Members 25b Posted February 5, 2015 Members Report Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) On 2/5/2015 at 2:59 PM, longtooth said: Along these lines what is every one using to put the little dimple in the cap. I checked around for a die for my arbor press and they want between 150.00 and 180.00 for the die.Uhh...I sent you a PM about this already.It sounds like you may have never seen the parts of these snaps before they're assembled. The "dimple" is already on the snap when you buy them. Also, the dimple isn't the part that makes it a directional fastener...they're made differently inside -- the "dimple" is just there so you know which direction to pull to unfasten it. The press-n-snap dies aren't terribly overpriced. Edited February 5, 2015 by 25b Quote
Boriqua Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 On 2/5/2015 at 7:44 PM, 25b said: Uhh...I sent you a PM about this already. Well feel free to send me a pm about your dimple technology. I dont currently dimple but I could if I had a good method that wasnt going to ruin my rather expensive DOT caps. Thanks Alex Quote
Members longtooth Posted February 6, 2015 Members Report Posted February 6, 2015 Hi 25B, We may not be on the same page. I have a lot of pull the dot caps. Not sure that's the correct name because I have heard numerous names for the part that has the pull the dot printing on them. I looked at mine thinking I lost my mind and didn't see the mark your talking about. None of mine have a mark on them. I was at a fellow saddle maker who uses these and he has a die that the cap fits in and when you press the corresponding part to the cap it puts a small dimple on the top of the cap. I looked at his die and on the inside is a small pimple that marks the cap. I just purchased a sizable order with Index and they have the die and Ohio Travel bag has it also. If the above information has flaws in it please educate me. Thank you, and also I appreciate your feedback. Don't ask questions you never learn. Quote
Members camano ridge Posted February 6, 2015 Members Report Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Longtooth you are correct currently DOT snaps are made without the dimple but have dot printed as part of the logo. You can set the snap so that the word DOT is located on the side you lift. You can use a spring punch to make a DOT it works ok. The Die is the best way to make the dimple if you must have it. Edited February 6, 2015 by camano ridge Quote
Members longtooth Posted February 6, 2015 Members Report Posted February 6, 2015 Thank you Camano.I'm going to try the spring punch first.A tad more economical. Quote
Members longtooth Posted February 6, 2015 Members Report Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) If that don't work then it's bite the bullet time. Edited February 6, 2015 by longtooth Quote
Boriqua Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 I kind of think this is one of those solutions looking for a problem. If I put a directional snap on a retention strap its pretty obvious which way the strap should break. If you tell the person you made the goods for that you put on safety snaps or directional snaps then it should be obvious. I didnt get the caps with the "pull the dot" on them because the text annoys me visually. I could live with a dimple but I dont feel overly in need of an indicator on which way to pull a snap. If there is a cheap way to add a dimple fine but if you cant figure out which way to pull a snap on a thumb break then you probably shouldn't own a gun. Quote
ClaireAshton Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 I made my own by tweaking line 24 snaps with pliers. First one on an existing snap which kept coming loose. Others tweaked as needed. BW Clare Quote
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