MatthewD Report post Posted November 9, 2008 Okay I am about to drive myself crazy not being able to cut a straight line and then match up two pieces of a notebook cover. Does anyone have any suggestions about making pieces of a pattern the same... I don't know if I am just letting the pattern slip or something to keep having this problem.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSwede Report post Posted November 9, 2008 I use a steelruler and utility knife to make straight cuts. Strop the blade of the knife first. Don't rush with it and plan the cut, like make sure that your fingers on the ruler have maximum grip and don't get in the way when cut...could hurt;-) I have masking tape on all corner on my cutting rulers to avoid sharp corners scratch leather and also the non-cutting side of the ruler is taped. Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Hatley Report post Posted November 9, 2008 i use a Carpenters Framing Square....at least two sides are at a 90 degree to one another. and i dont let it move... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmokinP Report post Posted November 9, 2008 Make sure when cutting you keep the blade perpendicular to the material. Maintain a consistent work angle and travel speed. Going slow is the fastest way to do it. As far as matching up, maybe you can make one piece a little oversize then trim after being attached? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CitizenKate Report post Posted November 9, 2008 I also use a utility knife and a straight edge to make cuts like this. To keep the ruler from slipping while I'm cutting, I place my fingers holding the straight edge so they touch the edge of the straight edge and the leather at the same time. If it slips even the tiniest bit, I can feel it, and adjust the blade angle before the cut goes stray. Kate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatthewD Report post Posted November 10, 2008 thanks ya'll I guess I just need to practice more.... time to buy some cheap denim or something and just practice cutting out patterns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tashabear Report post Posted November 10, 2008 thanks ya'll I guess I just need to practice more.... time to buy some cheap denim or something and just practice cutting out patterns Practice on Playdoh or pastry dough -- denim will NOT feel the same. In fact, since it's a twill, it will react even more poorly and teach you bad, bad habits to compensate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hivemind Report post Posted November 10, 2008 For thick leather I also try and clamp the hide to the cutting table. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moriver Report post Posted November 20, 2008 My wife put me on to a plastic (clear) ruler that's 24 inches by 6 inches. You can get them at any fabric store, they are used for laying out/cutting fabric. Works great for leather, you can see through it, easily cut parrallel lines etc, and it will not hurt you knife edge. I now have several in different sizes and shapes, handy as the pocket on a shirt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rawhide Report post Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) My wife put me on to a plastic (clear) ruler that's 24 inches by 6 inches. You can get them at any fabric store, they are used for laying out/cutting fabric. Works great for leather, you can see through it, easily cut parrallel lines etc, and it will not hurt you knife edge. I now have several in different sizes and shapes, handy as the pocket on a shirt. That's called a quilter's rule. these are great. My wife has about every size imaginable. Sounds like you knife may not be as sharp as it should be. When it's not extremely sharp, the knife can actually pull the leather and it will cut unevenly. Marlon Edited November 20, 2008 by Rawhide Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tashabear Report post Posted November 20, 2008 That's called a quilter's rule. these are great. My wife has about every size imaginable. Sounds like you knife may not be as sharp as it should be. When it's not extremely sharp, the knife can actually pull the leather and it will cut unevenly.Marlon You can get them in shapes too: http://quiltsuppliesonline.com/index.asp?P...&Category=6 I use quilter's template plastic for shapes I want to use again: http://www.ezquilt.com/products/plastics/singlesheets.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hedy Report post Posted November 22, 2008 For thick leather I also try and clamp the hide to the cutting table. What sorts of clamps do you use? How do you avoid the clamps making impressions in the leather? Thanks, Hedy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strapt Report post Posted November 24, 2008 For larger cuts I use a metal 60" rule from the lumber yard. The kind of thing drywall guys use. I tried clamping the rule to my bench top with the leather under it but couldn't get enough bite in the middle stretch of the rule to keep it flat on the leather. So now I cut large items on the floor and hold my rule down with some scrap 1x8 and a couple (rarely used) 10lb dumbbells. For smaller cuts, like for a notebook cover. I use a corkbacked metal rule about 18" long. Left over from my days as an artist, this thing is invaluable. If you don't have a corkbacked rule, get one. They're cheap and quite useful. As for quilting scales, I would caution anyone who cuts against a plastic straight edge. Typically (for me anyway) it only takes one or two uses and the straight edge is no longer straight b/c I've trimmed tiny bits of it off with my oh so sharp utility knife. I ruined a few drafting triangles that way as a graphic design student many moons ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloz Report post Posted November 25, 2008 Another item to consider is what kind of material you are cutting on top of. If it's wood such as plywood, solid oak, pine, alder, etc. that has a grain - then the grain itself will pull the blade in an undesireable direction that is impossible to control. I make all of my straight cuts on a long piece of formica counter top and make multiple shallow cuts until I cut through. If it is a relatively short cut, less than 36" I usually do that on 1/4" plate glass on top of my poundo covered work bench. This is what works for me... give it a try. PabloZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSwede Report post Posted November 25, 2008 Another item to consider is what kind of material you are cutting on top of. If it's wood such as plywood, solid oak, pine, alder, etc. that has a grain - then the grain itself will pull the blade in an undesireable direction that is impossible to control. I make all of my straight cuts on a long piece of formica counter top and make multiple shallow cuts until I cut through. If it is a relatively short cut, less than 36" I usually do that on 1/4" plate glass on top of my poundo covered work bench. This is what works for me... give it a try.PabloZ I use a wooden underlay when I cut. I put the leather so that the cut goes diagonally over the wood grain. When i use my plastic underlay the knife tends to sink in to the plastic wich causes drag that (for me) maeks the cut a bit more "nervous". I'm sure there are better plastic underlays than the one I use but just something to consider about the woodgrain underlay. Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moosedog Report post Posted December 4, 2008 Hello, All, I am new here, and thought I would just jump right in. Hope that is OK. I'm from Oregon and have recently returned to my childhood love of leathercraft. My sister the quilter turned me onto those clear rulers--being able to see through the transparent rule helps me keep everything aligned and alerts me to any straying that I might introduce...They are designed to work with a rotary cutter--As mentioned above, using a regular knife can chew up the edge quickly. But the sharp edge of a rotary cutter's wheel is never in contact with the ruler's edge. Rotary cutters work great with lighter leathers, just make sure to hold the blade flush against and perpendicular to the ruler. Last year my mom sent me an extremely heavy-duty rotary cutter with a side handle-- from Italy I think--that I have found cuts easily on up to 9-10 ounce leather! Thanks for the wealth of information on the board! Moosedog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tashabear Report post Posted December 4, 2008 Hello, All,I am new here, and thought I would just jump right in. Hope that is OK. I'm from Oregon and have recently returned to my childhood love of leathercraft. My sister the quilter turned me onto those clear rulers--being able to see through the transparent rule helps me keep everything aligned and alerts me to any straying that I might introduce...They are designed to work with a rotary cutter--As mentioned above, using a regular knife can chew up the edge quickly. But the sharp edge of a rotary cutter's wheel is never in contact with the ruler's edge. Rotary cutters work great with lighter leathers, just make sure to hold the blade flush against and perpendicular to the ruler. Last year my mom sent me an extremely heavy-duty rotary cutter with a side handle-- from Italy I think--that I have found cuts easily on up to 9-10 ounce leather! Thanks for the wealth of information on the board! Moosedog I run those over my fingers. They scare me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leerwerker Report post Posted December 5, 2008 I NEVER cut against a straight edge - inviting trouble, that is ... I use a scratch awl to mark the cut lines against a straight edge - the focus of the action is downward and only ever so slightly against the steel - very fewer mistakes. And if the steel slips (which will not happen often if you coat the underside with contact adhesive) there is not a whole piece of wasted leather because of the off-the-line cut. After the lines are marked, I cut them freehand and a slower speed is the answer to accuracy! For all but the thickest leather, I like a small craft knife with break off blades (always sharp and you can hold it like a pen for added accuracy). Now you do not have to focus on BOTH keeping the steel ruler down and making the cut - voila! fewer slip=ups! Hope this helps! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badger Report post Posted December 5, 2008 I mark against a straight steel edge with a pencil and then cut feehand. I find it easier and you can tell when it's going wrong. You can't always tell when cutting against a steel edge. Freehand you can see the line more easily and it's easier to keep your digits out of harm's way. I use those big self-healing cutting mats underneath. They don't pick up knife 'ruts' from prior cuts which can steer your blade astray. As with some others here; I cut slowly, very slowly, with a very sharp knife. I like the Stanley 'SK' knife you used to be able to get here in England. It's kind of half way between a craft/utility knife and a scalpel. I use regular factory blades, but honed on a fine diamond stone and rouge-polished on the mop. I stop and resharpen/polish whenever I feel the edge is going. Resharpen early and often. Hope this helps. Karl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hidepounder Report post Posted December 5, 2008 I'm surprised to see that no one is using a head knife! I dampen the leather, make a strong mark with a stylus, and then cut freehand with a headknife. I've found that I can cut within a pencil mark. I used to use a straight edge and utility knife, but inevitably, something would slip resulting in disaster. The width of a head knife is such that there is so much blade in the cut, that cutting straight is almost easier than a cutting a curve! It goes without saying that your knife must be very sharp! Using a head knife seemed awkward at first, but I assumed there was a reason why all the pro's used them. Now I know! If I need two pieces to match identically...I cut the first piece, then use it as a template to cut the second piece. This is usually adequate. But if not, I wait for them to dry, then I use blue 3M tape to hold them together and I sand the edges to a "finish" line on a stationary belt sander. This is what I do, hope it helpful to you..... Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MADMAX22 Report post Posted December 5, 2008 I actually used the utility knifes and such, would trace the pattern or line onto the leather then free hand cut the lines. Lastweek I picked up my first roundknife. and I must say WOW these things are nice. It felt really clumsy at first but now that Im getting the hang of it its amazing. Keep it sharp and away from the fingers (yeah I drew blood the first night) and your good to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinOaks Report post Posted December 5, 2008 Another option if you're matching edges- overlap slightly and cut the double thickness. That way you have the same edge, even if you hold the blade at an angle. For thicker leather, I use a head knife, for thinner I use a "hobby knife". It's an exacto style blade in a fixed plastic handle- no working loose, no change out. I also strop this blade reglarly when cutting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rawhide Report post Posted December 5, 2008 I'm surprised to see that no one is using a head knife! I dampen the leather, make a strong mark with a stylus, and then cut freehand with a headknife. I've found that I can cut within a pencil mark. I used to use a straight edge and utility knife, but inevitably, something would slip resulting in disaster. The width of a head knife is such that there is so much blade in the cut, that cutting straight is almost easier than a cutting a curve! It goes without saying that your knife must be very sharp! Using a head knife seemed awkward at first, but I assumed there was a reason why all the pro's used them. Now I know!If I need two pieces to match identically...I cut the first piece, then use it as a template to cut the second piece. This is usually adequate. But if not, I wait for them to dry, then I use blue 3M tape to hold them together and I sand the edges to a "finish" line on a stationary belt sander. This is what I do, hope it helpful to you..... Bob Bob, I use a head knife for just about all my cuts, unless it's an delicate cut requiring the scalpel. I find that I can control the head knife much better than anything I have in my arsenal. I usually cut on a poly cutting mat or poly cutting board, because the self healing mats tend to grab the knife edge and make it a little harder to push. The poly makes it effortless and in my opinion effortless = safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celticleather Report post Posted December 6, 2008 When I use a steel straight-edge (1ft or 2ft) to cut against, I have a strip of masking tape stuck to the underside of the steel. The matt surface of the tape helps to 'grip' the leather - especially thin leathers - and prevents it from slipping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gioia Report post Posted January 2, 2009 Okay I am about to drive myself crazy not being able to cut a straight line and then match up two pieces of a notebook cover. Does anyone have any suggestions about making pieces of a pattern the same... I don't know if I am just letting the pattern slip or something to keep having this problem.. When I learned leather working ,I was told to use a slightly higher table ...and always stand when cutting.You have more control over the amount of pressure you can exert on the knife.Good luck.Also, if cutting garment leather, either use a cutting board(butcher block style)or self healing vinyl cutting mat. Years ago , all the hand cutters in the garment center would place a block of wood under the top side of their cutting boards. This a created a slight angle to the board...kind of like a drafting table.but not as extreme. Joy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites