Members Singermania Posted April 15, 2015 Members Report Posted April 15, 2015 Yes the stitch length adjuster was moved to the far end on later model machines, also the French and German machines usually had them at the far end. Of our 16 machines here, I think about 6 of them have this configuration. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted April 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) HI, no its not the BUSMC machine, the Pearson was made in three countries, Britian, France and Germany. Yours is the Deutchland VSG manufacturer, you don't see many about, I also have one, only one in Australia. A lot of parts on my machine have the IVI factory marking and the 6HM (Model 6 Harmes Maker) marking. IVI Metallics in the UK produced parts and needles for BUSMC so I would assume the machine (or at least the parts) come from BUSMC. The handwheel is "relabeled" for DVSG Germany. Thats at least what I think. Or DVSG bought parts from BUSMC and assambled the machine in Germany. What do you think when has this machine been made? I would assume either in the 1930´s prior Sept. 1939 or after the war in th mid 1940´s to mid 1950´s. Edited April 15, 2015 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted April 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted April 15, 2015 Nice weather this evening to I decided to soak some parts in an electrolysis bath - worked well! Some light surface rust came back quickly but the old paint and all the gunk are gone! Only the motor mount has some tough paint left. The hand wheel also has an IVI marking so I would say IVI Metallics in the UK made it for DVSG. Some pictures Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted May 28, 2015 Author Members Report Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Yet not much progress I only have painted the cleaned parts... I know it´s an unusual color but on the picture it appears more green but its actually more olive. It looks live much better. Mine originally had a motor with separated clutch but no way to find the missing clutch parts for this special clutch system. So I wonder if someone has motorized his Pearson / BUSMC #6 with either a regular clutch motor or even a servo motor. If so - where have you put the motor? I wonder if the motor brake on a servo motor / clutch motor is strong enough to stop the rotation of the massive wheel on the backside of the stand. I of course could leave this out and go directly to the pulley on the main shaft but the huge wheel would give the needle much more punch. Motorizing the machine is just an idea. Most likely I will hand crank or treadle it but I´d like to know if others have motors on their machines. Edited May 28, 2015 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Singermania Posted May 28, 2015 Members Report Posted May 28, 2015 HI, sorry don't have much time lately to get on here. I have several complete clutch systems if anybody needs them, they are rather heavy though. British machines rarely had the clutch motor setup, they mostly were used in France. Originally the motor would have four bolts that went thru the leg of the treadle stand. The pitman arm was disconnected from the flywheel and attached the the clutch arm that used to hand down to reach the top of the pitman. You didn't need to worry about stopping the flywheel, the clutch would disconnect it from driving the machine. Yes I have motorised many Pearsons over the years, some with clutch motors and some with servos, you need to gear them down though. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted May 28, 2015 Author Members Report Posted May 28, 2015 I have removed the original clutch system since it is not complete so this no longer is an option. Sure, the clutch of a clutch motor disconnects but servos have no clutch. I worry that the huge + heavy wheel on the back of the machine stand would probably kill the servo. So leaving it out and adding a speed reducer and / or adding larger pulley on the main shaft is the better option I think. I noticed some Luberto´s had nice large pulleys. BTW - have you received my PM? Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted July 21, 2015 Author Members Report Posted July 21, 2015 If someone needs original needle guides and presser feet - I will sell some of mine as I need some bucks for spare parts http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=64861&p=421023 Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted July 23, 2015 Author Members Report Posted July 23, 2015 I was able to locate some parts. Shuttle cover even seems to be NOS. My original shuttle cover had no spring so I bougt the complete unit. Hope the needle plate screws will fit... Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted August 16, 2015 Author Members Report Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Finally found the time to "electrolyze" the stand, paint it and reassemble it. Someone else said restore the stand first so you have a base to work on the machine. That indeed was a good idea. The paint looks live much better. Some pictures Edited August 16, 2015 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted September 28, 2015 Author Members Report Posted September 28, 2015 Disassembled the head yesterday now I need a freekin squared wrench for removing the shaft and cam - some pictures Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted September 28, 2015 Members Report Posted September 28, 2015 Great to see an old machine like this being restored to use. There's something special about using a solid old sewing machine that you just don't feel with modern ones. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Members Constabulary Posted October 7, 2015 Author Members Report Posted October 7, 2015 Great to see an old machine like this being restored to use. There's something special about using a solid old sewing machine that you just don't feel with modern ones. I absolutely agree!!!! Lots of progress today - cleaned all the parts and painted most of them but I left some unpainted just for optical reasons (I like it). Hell, this thing has a million parts and screws. I made some chronological mistakes while assembling everything but finally everything fits together and machines spins nice and smooth but yet I have not sewn with it. I still have some work with it. Paint job still looks a bit strange in the pictures - its actually more olive than green. Some pictures some more Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted October 7, 2015 Members Report Posted October 7, 2015 I look forward to seeing the first stitches. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Members Constabulary Posted October 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted October 15, 2015 pulled the bobbin winder parts off the electrolysis bath today, wire brushed them and gave them a new paint job. Still have to clean and attach some smaller parts but thats how it looks atm. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted November 22, 2015 Author Members Report Posted November 22, 2015 Still working on this machine... Actually my longest restoration project EVER. I still don´t know if I will motorize it or not. But I was able to locate a very nice and quite large cast iron step pulley that perfectly fits the machine. I made a copper shim and it now fits like a glove. Shaft needs a flat spot for the set screws but thats something for the cold days. I stripped the paint in an electrolysis bath and painted it. I actually have 2 of these large pulleys - maybe someone is interested in the 2nd one. I´ll post it in the sales section in the days to come. Some pictures Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted November 22, 2015 Author Members Report Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) I just have checked my old pictures - seems this really is a German machine - got it? Sorry - I could not resist - maybe not too funny If inappropriate please delete. Edited November 22, 2015 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Greenwood Posted December 9, 2015 Members Report Posted December 9, 2015 WOW, Cst. The Pearson 6 I've owned since 1974 still looks like your first pics, shame on me!!! But by golly, whenever I need to sew a tight stitch on thick leather, the ole girl always pulls through. You've done a wonderful job, the best is still to come when you get it going "chicum chicum, beautiful sound. Over the years I've made a few upgrades: needle guide, snap in table and sewing guide. It came with the highly sought after bobbin winder. Don't how to attach pics sorry!! Layo Quote
Members Constabulary Posted December 9, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 9, 2015 WOW, Cst. The Pearson 6 I've owned since 1974 still looks like your first pics, shame on me!!! But by golly, whenever I need to sew a tight stitch on thick leather, the ole girl always pulls through. You've done a wonderful job, the best is still to come when you get it going "chicum chicum, beautiful sound. Over the years I've made a few upgrades: needle guide, snap in table and sewing guide. It came with the highly sought after bobbin winder. Don't how to attach pics sorry!! Layo Thank you very much Greenwood Snap in table sounds interesting I´d like to see some pictures of your updates and the whole machine. When you click on the brown button "MORE REPLY OPTIONS" next to the black POST button you can upload some pictures. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
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