Members Peterk Posted November 23, 2008 Members Report Posted November 23, 2008 Just bought some line 24 snaps from Zack White to try my hand at installing them... Installation went very smooth with the anvil and punch, but then I had to beat it with the hammer to get the two halves to snap together, and pretty much the same amount of force to get them apart... Is this supposed to be like this? I had made my third holster with snap loops in mind and had to change my plan to a pancake because the snaps would tear through the 8oz leather if I were to force it apart... Just wondering what is going on here... Any ideas? Thanks. Pete Quote
Members Randy Cornelius Posted November 23, 2008 Members Report Posted November 23, 2008 Wow!, never had that problem, You must have gotten a bad batch of snaps. I have had some that were a little tight at first but loosened up after a couple times. But never had to beat them to get them to snap. I don't know what to tell you other than send them back to where you got them. I always order mine from Weaver never had a problem. The tandy ones always seem to work just fine also. Randy Quote Randy Cornelius Cornelius Saddlery LaCygne, Kansas Randy & Riley Cornelius Ride Hard, Shoot Fast and Always Tell the Truth...
Contributing Member Jordan Posted November 23, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted November 23, 2008 If you smack um to hard when installing they deform somewhat and become a bear to snap and unsnap, usually will loosen up with use. Quote
Members tonyc1 Posted November 23, 2008 Members Report Posted November 23, 2008 I don't know what choices you have over there but out here I have 3 choices, soft, medium or strong! The strong ones are very hard to open. They are used for diff applications depending on the strength required. Are you using the correct one? Tony. Quote
Members Peterk Posted November 24, 2008 Author Members Report Posted November 24, 2008 Didn't have choices how strong the snaps are, I just picked line 24 snaps in black from Zack White. I tried a couple sets of snaps within the package and they were all hard to snap together. Definitely couldn't snap them together with finger pressure but did not need to smack them hard to snap with a hammer. I didn't order too many so I am okay. Dot fasteners have a minimum order now so I will try Weaver to see how those work. Thanks all. Quote
Members CitizenKate Posted November 24, 2008 Members Report Posted November 24, 2008 I think I know what the problem is, if you're using the same type of setter I am (I'll post some photos when I get a chance). The post of the female half has to be really flat after being set, or the two halves don't snap together very easily. So what I do, after setting the post on the female half, I turn the setter over and tap on it again with the flat side of the setter. This makes it nice and flat, and the snap works a lot better. Kate Quote
Moderator Art Posted November 24, 2008 Moderator Report Posted November 24, 2008 Hi Pete, Other than crushing them a little on installation, you might have received marine snaps. The stainless ones come in hard to get off, nasty little ba***rds, and holy canvas Batman I'm going to have to burn these off with a torch. In high wind areas, we use the latter. Most marine supply or canvas shops carry a $10 or so tool for snapping and especially unsnapping any of the above. Most of the bargain snaps are ok, but occasionally you get a run of them that just aren't right. The nickle/brass snaps are usually easier to snap/unsnap than the stainless ones. I have found that DOT/Scovill seem to make reliable stuff and a wide variety. You can end up with a mountain of snaps if you go with DOT or Scovill direct as their minimums are high, but there are a few distributors who handle the full line at lower quantities. Art Just bought some line 24 snaps from Zack White to try my hand at installing them... Installation went very smooth with the anvil and punch, but then I had to beat it with the hammer to get the two halves to snap together, and pretty much the same amount of force to get them apart... Is this supposed to be like this? I had made my third holster with snap loops in mind and had to change my plan to a pancake because the snaps would tear through the 8oz leather if I were to force it apart... Just wondering what is going on here... Any ideas? Thanks.Pete Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Contributing Member rdb Posted November 24, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted November 24, 2008 They are the same line 24s everyone else gets from tandy and elsewhere. basic 24s.I have a bag of them too. They have always been finicky, always will be. Hit them too hard, or too soft, and there's nothing but trouble. The only way they work perfectly is with the correct weight leather, and the right smack, and twist. One of the hand setters, or machine setters is the way to go. They put the right goldilocks set to them. There are heavier versions, which give better results by hand. I don't know if zacks carries them or not. Quote Web page Facebook
Contributing Member Jordan Posted November 24, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted November 24, 2008 Don't ferget you gotta have just the right squint and yer tongue has got to hang out just right when you smackum. Snaps are the bain of my existence in the leather realm Quote
Members Peterk Posted November 26, 2008 Author Members Report Posted November 26, 2008 Went by Tandy yesterday and picked up a small bag of their line 24 snaps. Visually these were a notch above what I got from Zack so I was hopeful. Anyway, the installation was straight forward and easy with the setter and anvil I got from Tandy, with an equal sized gold ring inside the snaps, and they snapped on and off with slightly heavier hand pressure without the need for hammer. Overall I am much happier now and finished my first snap-loop holster which is ready for dying. Thanks all! Quote
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