BlackRaven Report post Posted June 27, 2015 Hi Everyone Desperate for some urgent advice please. I'm commonly sewing 2 (sometimes 3 layers) of vegan leather together (2 layers of 3.5) and need to know which of these babies people would advise up to the job. At the moment I've the option of a 45k89 cylinder arm or a 133k13 long arm cylinder and just don't know which to go for. Would really appreciate some advice before I spend money. Thanks - Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted June 27, 2015 This are more parts available for the 133 than the 45,if that helps any? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) W/o having seen the machines and not knowing how they are set up I´d choose the 45K89. It has a reverse and some 45K accessories like feet and so are available. The 133K13 is NOT a leather sewing machine - this is a darning machine - It has no feeding mechanism!!!! The 45K89 has a jump foot system (if it has not been modified over the years) so if you have the chance to post some pictures please do. Edited June 27, 2015 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackRaven Report post Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Is this not a 133k 13 ? Edited June 27, 2015 by BlackRaven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) You wrote 133K13 - and this is a darning machine. Post some pictures if you are unsure. Edited June 27, 2015 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackRaven Report post Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the Vid I've posted a photo in a previous post.. I had a quick go and it punched through a single layer of 3.2 veg but needs a service so not seen it stitch properly. It had a walking foot too Maybe I have the wrong machine code ?? Thanks You wrote 133K13 - and this is a darning machine. Post some pictures if you are unsure. Edited June 27, 2015 by BlackRaven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted June 27, 2015 Seems it has a feeding mechanism and a walking foot - Looks like a 133K17 but not 100% sure - If you have the space then I´d choose the 133K. I´d test sew either machine before you buy one of them How much are the machines? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackRaven Report post Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Both that same price £1000, my main consideration is it being able to sew through thick veg without issue, the advantage of the 133k is its long arm as I build leather armour. Edited June 27, 2015 by BlackRaven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted June 27, 2015 The advantage of the 45K89 is that it has reverse (the 133K has no reverse) and has a heavier handwheel which gives the needle more puch but the long arm of the 133K is also quite nice and as CowboyBob said there are more 133K (or 132K) parts are availlable than for the 45K. Check with College Sewing UK - they have a good ranke of parts. At the end it is your decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
