natenaaron Report post Posted August 22, 2015 If you go to 4:45 and freeze the frame the leather looks kind of wrinkly but in a weird way. Why is it like this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlapaglia Report post Posted August 22, 2015 I looks like the leather was rolled backwards. Flesh side out. That will always make wrinkles like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simontuntelder Report post Posted August 23, 2015 Or he's simply cutting straps from the belly area or maybe it's just a poor hide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlapaglia Report post Posted August 23, 2015 This is true. I don't use belly so and forgot how they are. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natenaaron Report post Posted August 23, 2015 0k So, belly is not good? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlapaglia Report post Posted August 23, 2015 On 8/23/2015 at 1:14 AM, natenaaron said: 0k So, belly is not good? IT really depends on what you are doing with it. Belly wrinkles and stretchs a lot. for little items, things where stretch do not matter and for practice tooling and stitching. It's not normally used for things that need firmness. It is also a poor choice for things where it would be bad if it stretched. Like Belts and straps. Michael. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stelmackr Report post Posted August 23, 2015 On 8/23/2015 at 1:24 AM, mlapaglia said: <<<snip>>>Belly wrinkles and stretches a lot.<<<snip>>> Just like mine. ;-) Bob Stelmack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlapaglia Report post Posted August 23, 2015 On 8/23/2015 at 1:29 PM, stelmackr said: Just like mine. ;-) Bob Stelmack Mine too. I think its a sign of wisdom. It's certainly not caused by age. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geneva Report post Posted August 24, 2015 Definately a bac choice of leather. This is a piece of belly. There is no fixing what you see the belt will stretch and become useless. If you will take the belt in hand one end in the left hand and the other in the right hand and pull hard you will see what I mean. I took me a while to figure this out too. English bridle works best for belts at least that is what I use. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlapaglia Report post Posted August 24, 2015 Vegtan works very well for belts. Just make sure its from the back. I buy Backs and Bends for belts. Works great. Herman Oak Leather is all I buy anymore. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shtoink Report post Posted August 24, 2015 On 8/22/2015 at 10:34 PM, mlapaglia said: looks like the leather was rolled backwards. Flesh side out. This was my first guess, as well. When you roll it backwards tight enough, you'll end up stretching the grain side passed the point of being able easily to return to its original location. This can also happen on the flesh side, but it can take much more bending to get to that point and it's far less noticeable. As was mentioned above, the location of the hide that the particular piece was cut from plays a big role in the stretching/bending effects, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25b Report post Posted August 24, 2015 On 8/24/2015 at 4:49 PM, mlapaglia said: Vegtan works very well for belts. Just make sure its from the back. I buy Backs and Bends for belts. Works great. Herman Oak Leather is all I buy anymore. This is quite true...I'm finishing up a ranger belt for myself and cut it from bridle back outside (black) and the inner layer is chestnut veg tanned tooling leather, also from the back...and it's beautiful. Now I think I am spoiled and will only use bridle backs for other things I make. Maybe not, but wow, does it really burnish nicely!!! Just wonderful to work with. Mine came from Wickett & Craig, but I know Herman Oak makes great leather too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites