Cutting Pattern

[rcsaddles]

I just happen to have that book. I'll look at it tonight. I have found that Ron's books are the easiest for me to follow.

[sos]

I just happen to have that book. I'll look at it tonight. I have found that Ron's books are the easiest for me to follow.

Page 97 in the Ron Edward's "How to make whips" ... btw Joe, which edition do you have? I have the 2nd edition. I'm interested in hearing about the complicated cutting pattern Ron describes in the 1st edition book, but doesn't use in the 2nd.

Edited October 9, 2015 by sos

[rcsaddles]

I'll have to look at my book to see which one I have.

[sos]

Ok, so I've done a bunch of methods now ...

From Ron Edwards, “How to make whips “ ... here after known as HTMW

• Just cutting a straight line across the hide - great, but limited by the quality and size of hide. Does not work well on soft hides like goat/kangaroo.
• Circling all strands simultaneously from the outside on pages 55-57. On strong hides (kangaroo or cow if full grain you had split or split yourself), this is amazing once you learn a few tricks.
• Circling with the thumb nail as a guide on page 58. Not recommended beginners until they have done a few with a hand held strander.
• Triangle for snake whips on page 99. A happy compromise between the circling methods & just cutting straight lines across large hides. Needs special attention paid to the 3 corners if you are not tracing it. Otherwise a sheetrock straight edge & a pair of divider (compass) will give you flawless lace with very little skill required. If you get a bit of skill, you can put the blade at an angle and bevel at the same time...I'm not quite able to do this one for long pulls or corners.

Non Edwards:

• Circles from the inside I've also used the simple stranders from tandy's leather to work from the inside out...it gives up a 1 “x1 “ square of prime leather. Pretty reliable if the hide is strong. Don't bother with goat, unless you're really patient.
• Tracing a “U “ shape - My own style on a hide was to make a few marks on the back & do a mostly perfect cut with a sheet rock ruler. Extremely nice and for the short length I wanted awesome. This is really just a double length straight line cut. It's still faster than the triangle method and will allow you to utilize more of the hide.
• Straps into triangles - My own style again. This was the one I posted about above. The idea being if you have a perfect rectangle, then cutting from one corner to the opposite corner would create the perfect taper. You have to change the way you think about the measurements as the width you get out is the strap width, minus the minimum width you selected. Very easy to trace though!

For me as beginner knowing where to cut, training the hand to be steady, recognizing the bad chunks of leather & dealing with it are horribly simply - but difficult to do in practice. I know so much more than I did last year. I'm still not good even. Have to graduate to using just a cut strands and do the beveling while cutting off the circle.

My whips kind of look like junk to me, but I got called up to help talk about whips for a local thing last week!

Edited October 9, 2015 by sos

[rcsaddles]

It is always good to hear what other people are doing and what they make work. One of the reasons I like this forum is the sharing of inforamtion.

[sos]

I put it up on the blog, but it's not really coherent ... going to redo that post at some point, just that it got stolen so I can't remeasure the ends

https://madidos.wordpress.com/2015/10/28/whip-13-orange-goat/

[sos]

I'll have to look at my book to see which one I have.

Did you ever see what version you have? I'm still pondering it while I dig for my pack of razor blades. Been busy lately so not cutting new whips

[rcsaddles]

I looked at my book and did not see that cutting pattern in it. I didn't see which version it is but aI will try and remember to look tonight.

I use Ron's Whip making One book when I teach in Sheridan, Wyoming at the Rocky Mountain Leather Show.

I have cut out a very small four strand whip I want to make for a hat band. I'll take pictures as I go and post it when I am done.

Edited December 9, 2015 by rcsaddles

[sos]

I looked at my book and did not see that cutting pattern in it. I didn't see which version it is but aI will try and remember to look tonight.

I use Ron's Whip making One book when I teach in Sheridan, Wyoming at the Rocky Mountain Leather Show.

I have cut out a very small four strand whip I want to make for a hat band. I'll take pictures as I go and post it when I am done.

Thank you Joe! I've been learning ruby on rails & 3 other base langauages along with 17 helpers & 30ish add ons for webwork trying to pace myself at 30ish hours a week on that - so I'm less active currently.

I'm excited to see the hat band one! It's funny, as I'm at the one year mark for one of my mini's I did. About to take more photos of it too. Though, I'm afraid the design was a bit flawed. Once I finish moving my leather stuff, then do inventory. I move myself.