Pfaff 28

[Constabulary]

no big deal - just my 2 cents.

[Kohlrausch]

Sorry but i have to agree with Kohlrausch, 400-500 bucks is a rip off for a type singer 17,18 or whatever.

Well, there is a Singer 17 on Ebay right now with one day left, so we will soon learn what the market says.

Greets

Ralf C.

[Kohlrausch]

Thanks ! The machine has the clutch motor that I will probably end up replacing with a servo if I am gonna end up buying. I tried to Google needles for Pfaff 28 but I couldn't find anything...nothing on EBay either...same goes for bobbins. Also there is just one video on YouTube ..they can't be that rare ...lol...

It's the machine worth the $600 the seller is asking ?

Thanks again !

Hi,

to put this in perspective: 600 for the machine plus servo plus speed reducer and you end up around 850 to 900 USD. 995 would get you a brand new Cowboy CB 2500 complete with servo and speed reducer. That's why I think the seller's asking price is too high.

As for the bobbins try cutex: http://www.cutexsewingsupplies.com/singer-17-17u-18-18u-and-68-class-sewing-machine-bobbins-2073-pack-of-10

Greets

Ralf C.

[Constabulary]

I have seen the Singer 17.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Singer-17-16-Passepartout-Nahmaschine-Ledernahmaschine-/221929814704?hash=item33ac0c3ab0:g:CFMAAOSw5VFWNx4F

I´m sure it will not sell (damn I could use the bobbin winder for my 34K )

There for sure is not a huge market for these light duty machiens and this Singer 17 is much older than the Pfaff 28. I´d say the Pfaff 28 is a technically advance variant or clone of the Singer 17. You either need it or you don´t need it. Same with bar tackers or the like. No one buys them but if you need one and find the right one it´s worth the money.

I think you don´t need a speed reducer for these light duty machines.

[Kohlrausch]

I have seen the Singer 17.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Singer-17-16-Passepartout-Nahmaschine-Ledernahmaschine-/221929814704?hash=item33ac0c3ab0:g:CFMAAOSw5VFWNx4F

Naaa, ment this one: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Singer-Industrial-Sewing-Machine-17-41-Leathers-Upholstery-Heavy-Duty-Commercial-/262124862905?hash=item3d07dbfdb9:g:pWEAAOSwlaxWN9fk

Here's the parts manual: https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CEwQFjAIahUKEwiIrojtzYHJAhUovXIKHT7ZDsM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhensewfiles.com%2FPDFs%2FPfaff%252028.pdf&usg=AFQjCNE762KJ-YPw1NC2ptLpdgtvVXO9ug&cad=rja

Also, to assess the price correctly we would have to know whether it ist 600 USD or CAD.

I paid 75 Euros for mine, which is about 107 CAD.

620 USD got me a Pfaff 23, a Pfaff 138, a Pfaff 145, an Adler 30-1 and an Adler 5, four tables and two motors, the motorized 145 being the most expensive of the lot @ USD 270.

Greets

Ralf C.

Edited November 8, 2015 by Kohlrausch

[LeatherLegion]

Never expected that much feedback...Thanks again !!!! I might try to push my luck and offer $300 ...if it turns out to be working properly...I only care for the cylinder arm ..otherwise I would not be interested

Here is a picture of it's "tag" ...maybe helps figuring out the subclass

Edited November 9, 2015 by LeatherLegion

[Darren Brosowski]

The Singer 17/18 class might be as old as the hills but they are still in production as the Seiko TE/TF.

I believe that they are primarily used in the shoe industry.

The bobbin is readily available as is the long beak shuttle.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Doz-Singer-17-long-beak-bobbins-/221352870282?hash=item3389a8c18a

[Kohlrausch]

Never expected that much feedback...Thanks again !!!! I might try to push my luck and offer $300 ...if it turns out to be working properly...I only care for the cylinder arm ..otherwise I would not be interested

Here is a picture of it's "tag" ...maybe helps figuring out the subclass

Hi, you're trying to buy one, Rossr is trying to sell one. Maybe you two can team up and both be happy?

Greets

Ralf C.