Help Identification Singer Or Adler Or?

[shoepatcher]

That is an Adler head. Someone put in a Singer race to make it work. As Uwe said, some parts are interchangeable or will work. To me, the head looks like a 20 class Adler. The 120's replaced the 20's. A parts book is available on Adlers' blog site under "Downloads" which covers machines no longer in Production. I would download that when you can. Great help.

glenn

[sandyt]

Hello people, thanks for all the help. I am pretty sure it's an Adler 20-2 with some Singer parts. Compared all the pictures. Couldn't find all the the numbers though. But that's oke.

The machine sews pretty good. Have to buy matching needles and thread though. The machine is pretty tight too. Very happy with it.

But before I give it a fresh paint, I have to solve one issue. The feed dog is to high. I can't find any ajustment to do this. Everything looks 'locked'. See last pic. Anyone has an idea how to do this?

[Uwe]

Wow, she cleaned up very nicely and makes a beautiful, long stitch on a big stack of leather. Does your machine actually have reverse via the stitch length lever? Those backstitches look perfect!

Just based on those pictures, I'd say you have a winner and survivor on your hands - congratulations!

The numbers in the third picture sure look a lot like "Kl 20 No 2" to me (Klasse 20 Nummer 2). Also, the second to last picture has the part stamped with 20122, which corresponds nicely with Adler 20 part diagram's part number of 20 00 122 0 (All those extra 0's wouldn't fit on the part anyway, haha). I'm ready to go "All in" (in poker terms) that this is an Adler 20.

As far as the feed dog height goes, it looks locked down to me, too. That pin that goes right through the center of it all prevents you from adjusting the feed dog lift arm position on the shaft, which would adjust how high the feed dog moves during the cycle. I don't see that silver lock pin in any of the parts diagrams, so it may have been added afterwards to make SURE the feed dog height never changes. Without that pin, it would be easy to adjust the lift arm position for the feed dog height.

Many machine's service instructions direct you to adjust the feed dog height so that the full height of the teeth is exposed above the throat plate while it transports. Is yours far off from that?

That feed dog itself doesn't look like a super complicated part. You could perhaps have one custom made by a machinist with a height that suits you. Or file down an existing feed dog if you have extras.

Edited December 21, 2015 by Uwe

[VanRhodes]

Do you have a close up picture of the feed dogs? I scored a rather nice Adler 20-7 a couple of years back(wich also has a SIMANCO shuttle race btw) and it appears you do not have the original feed dog. The Adler 20 is compatible with several of the Adler 120 parts, feed dogs included, with the difference that the feed dogs for the 120 is a little taller, thus protruding higher above the needle plate. If you look closely on the Adler 120 you can see that the needle plate is slightly thicker to mitigate this.

[Constabulary]

This machine most likely left the factory as Adler 20 - BUT - companies like Pfaff, Phoenix or Koehler sold Adler built machines like the 30-1, 30-15 (and maybe others) under their brand own name. What they often did is they just added the digit 1 on the name plate (or replaced the name plate). F.i. the relabeled Pfaff machines usually have addition INDUSTRIA and the Adler 30-1 was sold as PFAFF INDUSTRIA and the name plate states 130-1. Maybe it´s the same with your machine.