Members cicftaiwan Posted December 5, 2015 Members Report Posted December 5, 2015 Up till now I've used water or Eco-Flo burnishing gum on leather. Then while looking for better products I came across Seiwa leathercraft tokonole burnishing gum. It's from Japan and looks more like white glue than a clear gel. It's much easier to apply and provides very quick results. 1 application is enough and it leaves a very even coat and color after burnishing. It's especially fast when you are trying to burnish a large area. I've noticed in Asia that this is the preferred product used by most leather professionals. Has anyone else in this forum tried this product before? I'd be curious of what you think? Anyways, if you are looking for a better solution for burnishing, give this one a try. I'm sold! Quote
Members victorl Posted December 10, 2015 Members Report Posted December 10, 2015 I'm in Japan and you're right, Tokonole is the preferred burnishing compound over here. I use it on the flesh side and on most of my edges. Great product, burnishes up nicely and holds up well over time. Quote
Members OLDNSLOW Posted December 12, 2015 Members Report Posted December 12, 2015 I haven't looked for it but is it available in the U. S. ? Quote
Members SantaFeMarie Posted December 12, 2015 Members Report Posted December 12, 2015 Thanks for the tip! What are you using for the burnishing tool? Quote
Members victorl Posted December 13, 2015 Members Report Posted December 13, 2015 To answer some questions: You can get it at goodsjapan.com or leathercrafttools.com. It also comes in black and brown in addition to clear. Personally, I use a wood slicker and/or canvas for edges and glass for burnishing the flesh side. I get the best results when I let it dry and become more gummy for a few minutes before burnishing. Quote
Members geargarcon Posted January 15, 2017 Members Report Posted January 15, 2017 I have been looking for more information on tokonole, but this appears to be the only thread on it in the forums. Has anyone else tried this product over the last year? Quote
Members panchoskywalker Posted January 15, 2017 Members Report Posted January 15, 2017 On 12/12/2015 at 9:25 PM, victorl said: To answer some questions: You can get it at goodsjapan.com or leathercrafttools.com. It also comes in black and brown in addition to clear. Personally, I use a wood slicker and/or canvas for edges and glass for burnishing the flesh side. I get the best results when I let it dry and become more gummy for a few minutes before burnishing. Could you show us a picture of the tool you use to burnish the flesh side please? I'd like to try that. I use it for burnishing and I like it but it's the only brand that I have tried so I can't compare. It's for sale on ebay. Quote
bikermutt07 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Posted January 15, 2017 Just look up glass slicker. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Mattsbagger Posted January 15, 2017 Members Report Posted January 15, 2017 10 hours ago, geargarcon said: I have been looking for more information on tokonole, but this appears to be the only thread on it in the forums. Has anyone else tried this product over the last year? Ian Atkinson has a review on this stuff I THINK. I know he uses it now instead of gum trag. And gets it through goods Japan. Quote
Members Tugadude Posted January 15, 2017 Members Report Posted January 15, 2017 Ian's video... https://youtu.be/zyTg_hfpNUM Quote
Members geargarcon Posted January 15, 2017 Members Report Posted January 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Tugadude said: Ian's video... https://youtu.be/zyTg_hfpNUM I've watched that video but I don't think he uses the tokonole in it. I just skimmed through it again and don't seem to see the product. Do you know what minute marker he uses it? Also, I'm interested in it as a burnishing agent, not a finish - so any first hand experience with it as a burnishing agent would be greatly appreciated. Quote
Members billybopp Posted January 15, 2017 Members Report Posted January 15, 2017 Ian shows the Seiwa finish in this video, about 18 or 19 minutes in. I'm pretty sure it's what is now called Tokonole. I've used it and like it! Bill Quote
Members geargarcon Posted January 15, 2017 Members Report Posted January 15, 2017 28 minutes ago, billybopp said: Ian shows the Seiwa finish in this video, about 18 or 19 minutes in. I'm pretty sure it's what is now called Tokonole. I've used it and like it! Bill Thanks for that. Do you use the clear one? Any experience with the colored ones? What advantages do you feel this has over water or glycerine soap as a burnishing agent? Quote
Members billybopp Posted January 16, 2017 Members Report Posted January 16, 2017 When I bought, clear was all that they had. It seems to do a good job, although I do sometimes use water/glycerine/beeswax still at times. The Seiwa seems to seal the edge so that it doesn't readily accept dyes - but it does do a nice job. Worth a try for sure! Bill Quote
Members geargarcon Posted January 16, 2017 Members Report Posted January 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, billybopp said: When I bought, clear was all that they had. It seems to do a good job, although I do sometimes use water/glycerine/beeswax still at times. The Seiwa seems to seal the edge so that it doesn't readily accept dyes - but it does do a nice job. Worth a try for sure! Bill Thanks for the info. Aside from sealing it, do how do your results differ between the water/glycerine/beeswax approach compared to the tokonole? Why do one vs the other? Quote
BWL Posted January 16, 2017 Report Posted January 16, 2017 I use this one. I bought it from Tandy. I like it! Glass slicker.htm Quote It's the impresion you leave that counts. Michael
Members billybopp Posted January 17, 2017 Members Report Posted January 17, 2017 21 hours ago, geargarcon said: Thanks for the info. Aside from sealing it, do how do your results differ between the water/glycerine/beeswax approach compared to the tokonole? Why do one vs the other? The Tokonole looks more glass-like, while saddlesoap-beeswax is still shiny it's not quite as much. If I want to dye the edge with tokonole, the dye needs to go on first and can get pretty dark, but it works. And sometimes the choice comes down to what is close at hand and my mood at the time! Bill Quote
Members geargarcon Posted January 18, 2017 Members Report Posted January 18, 2017 Thank you! I have been looking for an answer like this for weeks! And on a side note - love the avatar Quote
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