Fiebing Leather Stain Ques

[Boriqua]

So I have always used fiebing's dyes, either the solvent or the pro oil. I have also used for many years their Acrylic Antique stains. About a year ago I bought some fiebings cherry "stain" I have used it as an undercoat and its ok but when digging around on weaver today I think the stains are supposed to be mixed with oil?

So where do there stains fit in. Im a little confused. You have the dyes, the acrylics and then ... little did I know ... a whole host of stain colors

http://shop.fiebing.com/c/leathercraft_dyes_leather-stain?pkey=1d380b5a67725714d8a3d7ca967a324b&ckey=72706.72707.72771.0.0

How do the stains differ from dye. Im not talking antique stains or pastes but the stains they show at the link above. Im hoping its something new and cool to me that I can add to my playing around.

Thanks!

alex

[grmnsplx]

Interesting. Looks like it's a "diethylene glycol monoethyl ether" dye. Just means the use diethylene glycol monoethyl ether as a solvent for they dye complexes.
Looks like it's a pretty common solvent for wood stains, paints, etc.

The pro oil dyes also have some diethylene glycol monoethyl ether, but there are some other ethers, alcohols, some benzene and other stuff in there as well.

The spirit dyes are similar - diethylene glycol monoethyl ether and some alcohols mainly

Hard to say what it's like to use. I guess you'll just have to experiment. I wonder if it's the same as Tandy's new Oil dyes? (Fiebings makes a lot of products for Tandy)

It seems that with tightening regulations, it getting harder to make and ship some products with chemicals like benzine around so companies like Tandy and Fiebings are making new products with different solvent blends.

[grmnsplx]

hah! I got it.

"diethylene glycol monoethyl ether" is synonymous with "2-(2-Ethoxyethoxy)ethanol"

It's Tandy's "water based" Eco-Flo leather dye - which is made by Fiebings.

http://www.tlfsafety.com/PdfFiles/2600-16%20GHS-EN_MSDS.pdf

http://www.weaverleather.com/Documents/MSDS/Fiebings-Leather-Stain.pdf

Edited March 11, 2016 by grmnsplx

[Boriqua]

Dude you are like a genius!!!! I use a couple of the ecoflo waterstains ... the black waterstain is awesome. So now I have to see who has it cheaper. Thank you

Alex

[grmnsplx]

Just to be clear. The "waterstains" and the water based dyes from Tandy are different.

The waterstains (made by Fenice) are acrylic pigments in a water/alcohol/N-Methyl-2-pyrrolidone solution. The dyes are dye complexes in an alcohol/water solution.

[Boriqua]

Cool thank you .. I have to say I am underwhelmed by the cherry stain but it does make a good base for other techniques. I used it with the saddle bags at the link. I then went over top with straight fiebing's mahogany, 50/50 mahogany and some brown very lightly all through an airbrush and it turned out ok but straight from the bottle it is blah.

http://boriqualeather.com/Antique%20Cherry%20Saddlebags/

Thank you so much for all the info!!!!