Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted June 1, 2016 Members Report Posted June 1, 2016 Can I volunteer to provide the neccessary storage in between 'loan outs' for it. Honest, it will be well looked after until someone else needs it. and y'all can come out and collect it from Scotland anytime. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
mikesc Posted June 1, 2016 Report Posted June 1, 2016 Scotland is nice..used to drive around it a lot back in the late 70s and early 80s..had a friend who was a customs inspector of the distilleries, being diabetic he couldn't partake, so, I considered it my duty to help out ;)..My wife ( Breton ) always loves the look of Scotland on TV and in books, one day we may hire a camper ( RV ) and spend a month or so touring. Re "additional devices" A laser cutter would be nice ( and they are not to expensive, even for reasonable ones, a friend has one, great on leather ), but I first have to finish building the workshop where it ( and the various sewing machines currently dispersed around our house, and those yet to be bought/rescued ) are going to live..For that , it must not rain much this summer..Brittany coast, one of the rainiest parts of France, although not at the moment, we have no flooding, nor will we, 400 metres from cliff top, ( no erosion problems either )..I was reading about some embroidery machines ( the cheaper stuff, not the Melco ) overnight here, the software driven ones do seem to be somewhat temperamental even on woven textiles, i would like the kind of thing that wouldn't be dependent on the dealer's "service". Sewing machine dealers in France ( both of domestic and industrial machines ) are not renowned fro their "customer service" once the machine has gone out of the door and the cheque has been cashed ( and here you cannot do "charge backs" on credit or debit cards )..and they are even less helpful if the machine was not bought new from them, parts are horrendously expensive compared with the UK or USA.. Electronics in devices are all well and good if one can buy the parts oneself to repair/replace at a reasonable price..I'd be interested to hear more about either of the embroidery machines mentioned ( and drool over the Melco ) , I'd be embroidering 1 to 2 oz chrome tanned lambskin or goatskin..small pieces, nothing bigger than an A4 sheet of paper, and probably smaller than that.. Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Members wlg190861 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Members Report Posted June 2, 2016 On 5/30/2016 at 1:41 AM, LumpenDoodle2 said: I have a Brother embroidery machine, and you can embroider thin leather (1mm), and I've seen some lovely work via google. You'll probibly need quite a thick stabaliser to stop the thread puckering (embroidery thread has quite a stretch to it), and play with the top tension a bit. As for the needle, I'm not too sure what type would be best, as a leather point might encourage the needle holes to run into each other. Such thin leather may handle a standard embroidery needle better, and you may find you have to replace the needle at the start of each job due to it being blunted. Certainly aim for low stitch density patterns. Are you using software to create patterns, or buying pre-made ones. Just to add, the 1mm thichness refers to veg tan or 'bookbinding' leather, you can embroider thicker chrome leather, but be careful, as you will be pushing the limits of your machine, and could knock the timing out. I will be buy pre-made designs until I et more familiar with things, First time Quote
Members wlg190861 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Members Report Posted June 2, 2016 I am wanting to embroider a persons name or initials on leather projects, mostly using garment leather an upholstery leather. I was at the sewing shop an they did some on 5/6 oz soft chrome tan an it turned out great but, it did seem to work the machine harder. Is there a embroidery machine made for leather ? Quote
mikesc Posted June 2, 2016 Report Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) Quote Is there a embroidery machine made for leather There are.. But they are all around this kind of spec and price range..http://www.globalsources.com/si/AS/BOMA-Sewing/6008841584595/pdtl/Direct-Drive-Electronic-Leather-Embroidery-Machine/1043228719.htm There is this video on a Brother PE-770 machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5A2NtU_Skw that appears to cope OK with 3oz garment leather..noisy though..( and I wish people would make videos like Uwe's and not go for all the over the top bling effects like Mr Arcuri does in his intro ) , and still an expensive machine, unless you are going to get a lot of use out of it.. Edited June 2, 2016 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted June 2, 2016 Moderator Report Posted June 2, 2016 I think that a one head, 6 needle Melco EMT16 can embroider leather, because Leather is listed in the left sidebar among the items it can sew onto. It sews on hats, baseball caps, jackets and jerseys. An email or phone call to Melco should get an accurate answer. It would be about the cheapest full commercial embroidery machine that I know about. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members LumpenDoodle2 Posted June 2, 2016 Members Report Posted June 2, 2016 You haven't lived until you visit Scotland, we cram a lot of variety into one small place. The Brother Innovis 750, is the equivalent of the Brother 770 in the US. It costs about the £900 mark new, and can take a bit of getting used to, but when you get the hang of it, it's a good bit of kit. £900 is still a lot of money for something you are pushing to its limits from day one, though. As to making your money back on the machine through items to sell, I know I haven't yet, maybe never will in the lifetime of the machine, but I still wouldn't be without it. As to being noisy, even when not under the additional strain of embroidering thick material, it clatters away to itself. I make finds pouches with personalised embroidery on them, so treated myself to the Embird digitising software. A bit of a steep learning curve, but pretty good, and you can buy the software in modules so doesn't hurt the bank balance too much. At £90-£150, per unit, not too cheap, but the alternative is £1,000+ for commercial software. Quote “Equality? Political correctness gone mad, I tell you, gone mad!!!! Next they'll be wanting the vote!!!!! “. Anger and intolerance are the enemy of correct understanding
Members Darren Brosowski Posted June 5, 2016 Members Report Posted June 5, 2016 Very cautiously I will say that it will do the job - at least for a while. A single needle industrial embroidery head will cost more but they are designed to do a high number of cycles and so will handle the load better. There are a range of Cowboy machines designed for this type of work on cowboy boots but they are expensive. It all comes down to how often you need to use it Quote
mikesc Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 Found this when searching embroidery machines..cannot find out exactly what the machine is so as to be able to look out for one..I want one Yesterday I bought a 15K88 with treadle for slower work ( thanks for the pointer in that direction Darren ) ..But I'd love one of the machines ( or it's equivalent ) that Karen Nichol is using in this video..It is a singer, but what model ? Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
mikesc Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 Found what it is.. it is a Singer 107w102..now just have to find one.. or a 107wsv ( which has feed dogs, which may be removable ? ) Alternatives are ( but apparently not as good ) 20u62 and 20u142. and with removable feed dog , the 20u63 and 20u143.. Anyone here ever used any of the above machines ? Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
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