Hockeymender Posted June 2, 2016 Report Posted June 2, 2016 5 hours ago, Kohlrausch said: Hi, this may seem a stupid thing to do in leatherworker.net, where a majority of members each seem to have half a dozen 441-clones minimum. Greets Ralf C. I'm not sure what members you are referring to, I only have one 441 clone. I would be willing to bet that most here have only one. I think Eric's point is well taken, people watch a video, and then attempt to do something they really shouldn't do because they or the machine is not up to the task. That ends badly. Always. I think the small budgeted layman can find himself in a world of hurt if he steps into what is for him, uncharted territory. Quote Regards, Joe Esposito www.hockeymenders.com instragram: @hockeymenders.com
Uwe Posted June 2, 2016 Author Report Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) It seems I've hijacked my own topic! The relative merits of certain sewing machine hacks probably deserves its own topic. I'll check with MJ Foley on actual real-world end-user pricing of the Juki LS-2342 models. The $7-8K ballpark figure is what the Juki guy at the trade show stated for the base model, somewhat hesitantly. Edited June 2, 2016 by Uwe Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members gottaknow Posted June 3, 2016 Members Report Posted June 3, 2016 21 hours ago, Kohlrausch said: Hi, this may seem a stupid thing to do in leatherworker.net, where a majority of members each seem to have half a dozen 441-clones minimum. But in German fora (forums) the question for a cheap way to sew thick material comes up about once a week. Typical budget: 250 to 300 Euros. That doesn't buy you a working leather machine with servo, but it could get you going if you are willing to do some tinkering. If you aren't doing production work on belts or upholstery 7 yards doesn't seem so bad, either. That would be sufficient for half a dozen big dog collars or one long "wedding seam" to join upper deck and hull for folding kayaks. And nobody would ever see the stitches, as they are hidden inside. I think, for small budgeted laymen cechaflos tips are quite useful. Greets Ralf C. If folks in Germany are looking for cheap, a much better machine to hack is the 211G151's. First off they are going to be in the same price range as a 241, but yet offer needle feed, a vertical hook, and the ability to raise the needle bar and convert to the 137x16 needle class for leather. They will sew and tension properly T135 with the heavier tension spring. Parts are cheep. Can easily be set for 1/2" presser foot lift without modification. Over the years, I've seen perfectly good machines ruined because folks didn't know how to go about making good decisions about modifying machines. I have a thread on a 211 that I rebuilt for a lady here that had been hacked to the point of near death. I was able to get it going again, but most people couldn't have fixed it and it would have ended up a boat anchor. I have modified hundreds of machines over the years, but always proceeding in a logical manor because I know what I'm doing. Regards, Eric Quote
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