3 phase power conversion

[catskin]

Is there any reason that a person can't just change the motor on a clicker press to the power available? ( Ex. 220 v )   For example is there other things on it that need power besides the motor?

[brmax]

I think its the cheapest solution, replacing the motor. I have seen some switching that would need to be evaluated and likely changed. Also some switching types are a on a low voltage relay type setup and may need updated.

What level of equipment are we considering, and it may help knowing any hp ratings.

Floyd

[catskin]

I am going to be looking at a clicker soon that I have been offered and was just wondering if changing the motor would be an option as compared to phase converters. After I see it I will have a better idea of hp. tons it puts out etc.

Changing switches would be easy enough for me, I do understand that part of electrical just haven't done anything with 3 phase yet.

Edited January 23, 2017 by catskin
added more detail.

[Trox]

On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 7:45 PM, catskin said:

I am going to be looking at a clicker soon that I have been offered and was just wondering if changing the motor would be an option as compared to phase converters. After I see it I will have a better idea of hp. tons it puts out etc.

Changing switches would be easy enough for me, I do understand that part of electrical just haven't done anything with 3 phase yet.

Every AC motor are originally 3 Ph, if it runs on single Ph it's rewired like in my picture above. (Or a little bit differnt) If the motor has a capacitor or two like mine (the white plastic cylinders) it's rewired for single Ph current. I'm talking about AC motors, DC motors (servo motors) are different, they are not used on machines like this (very expensive when they get this big). When a AC motor is rewired for single Ph it looses a bit torque, but it's always normal to use a bit bigger motor than neccessary when they build machines like these. Therfore, changing the motor will (narmally) not be necessary, just rewire the existing motor like in my example. By using two big capacitors, enough startup torque is stored in them to get the motor running (startup) like normal. When a motor is a bit to small for the aplication, it will struggle to make the startup. Fuses will blow and so on. Get hold of a couple of big capacitors on Ebay and get an electrician to rewiring the motor with them.  Mine are on 50 micro farad each and will work fine on motors from 750 to 2000 Watt. A electrician can calculate what power your clicker needs too, but my setup looses minimal power on a 1,2 Kw motor. It's not a big expensive job. Frequency converter/drives are only neccessary when you need to regulate the speed (or other aprameter) on the motor. They are quite expensive too, no need for such on a clicking machine.

Tor       

[catskin]

Thank you Trox, When I actually got to see this press I found out the owner was told wrong it is in fact 3 wire 220 volt ( like a electric stove or dryer )  So changing it would not be needed after all IF I buy it. 

[Trox]

56 minutes ago, catskin said:

Thank you Trox, When I actually got to see this press I found out the owner was told wrong it is in fact 3 wire 220 volt ( like a electric stove or dryer )  So changing it would not be needed after all IF I buy it. 

Ok, two lines and ground yes. Then it's just clicking away. Good luck, Tor