LU562 Needle plate height

[mixmkr]

Is this normal??   Seems the needle plate should be flush, not to mention giving me a slight more clearance under the presser feet.  As you can see, it has been previously ground out as well for my binder feeder to slide up closely too.  A flush plate would eliminate that need for the grinding out section as well.   And of course, I'd prefer flush, so I could feel my work underneath, without dealing with the little raised portion.

If so...I suppose the lower feed dog would need to be lowered, but the needle/hook timing would remain the same?  I guess the upper presser feet might need some adjustment then too.   ....yes...I'm fairly new to this, but have to learn because it's now my profession! ;-O

[gottaknow]

That is a binder plate. You can simply order a regular plate to replace it if you want. It has no affect on hook timing. 

Regards, Eric

[brmax]

A few I have also had a taller feed dog part with the binder kit, so ya might look in any extras/boxes with the machine.

I found this out with a machine purchase of mine with the binder setup, lucky old oem parts were in a box. If its all a machine does bind I believe the better setup but back n forth materials and items to sew I kinda agree its a pita and reason I removed one also.

Floyd

[mixmkr]

Wow...you guys are extremely helpful.  My lucky day too!   I did look in my "extra parts" I got with the machine...and an almost new looking flush plate  !!!! 

I agree Floyd...no need to switch back and forth (I would think???)  .   What is the purpose of the binder plate?  Just get it up a tad??

All this said... I guess I need to lower my bottom presser foot now.  This pics show the lowest it goes, as it was set good (tooth fully exposed when raised) with the binder plate.   I'm too new at this !!

[gottaknow]

The binder plate allows the folder to sit with the insert portion of it level with the plate. This allows what you're binding to have the ideal entry level to the machine. Over the years, I don't bother with special binder plates. The only exception is a Singer 281-30 which is strictly for binding that has a close-coupled puller. I use it for making hanger loops for jackets. Even my Juki LU562 I use for attaching 1" leather binding just uses the standard plate. Some people really like them. 

Regards, Eric

[mixmkr]

Eric, you've been a huge help and I've learned a lot today.  Floyd, you too as always.  (we need to visit someday!)

Happy New Years guys    Thanks again.

[Uwe]

You have to change out your feed dog, too. The feed dog that accompanies the binder plate is much taller than a normal feed dog.

[mixmkr]

thx Uew,... I think I just discovered that, as I could not lower it sufficiently enough to make things work.  Unfortunately I don't find a shorter bottom feed dog in my collection of junk either, so will order. 

Probably unrelated, but I was getting huge loops from my upper thread, on the lower side.  I messed and messed with stuff, (trying the learn and potentially making it worse!!)....adjusting heights, pressure, etc.   BAD stiches.

So....I ended up putting back in the taller binder plate and the thread stiches went back to good again.   I don't see how that's related, even if I was to get "close" lowering my middle feed dog (per your video). 

Will order the regular set, so I get "matching" plate and dog, I suppose.  They're not much.   But I could use that extra space under the feet without the binding plate.

You guys have helped me immensely.   I can't thank enough.

 

BTW, I'm using 138 equivalent PTFE Gore Tenara thread, which is pretty slippery stuff....to throw that all in the equation.

Edited January 2, 2017 by mixmkr

[mixmkr]

I see I can buy a set pretty cheap...$13 or so...  and have the option of a slotted feed dog or just s single hole.  I have a single hole in my binder, taller feed dog now, so I guess it doesn't really matter.....right?

[brmax]

It  sounds kinda normal with the loops and all, as ya may have noticed a feed difference also. That would be like having your knee against the lift, its just jacks everything up.

So here I'm going to get back on the porch and say get a feed dog with a groove but get it from one of the sponsors here, some times I like oem parts if available. If you were to look at a parts list they may show a couple different tooth patterns and this is where I depend on the pro shops advice to help me with what I do most, then look at option for say leather as on the site here not a lot of interest in gouged leather from the ole biting dogs  

So maybe an opportune time to get their experience on one or more options, I'm gonna play the trained monkey here hahaha

On another note them presser feet are some wicked pullers it looks like, but so is 30-40' canvas ~ understandable.

Floyd

[mixmkr]

Floyd...yeah I got some OEM parts...I believe, but couldn't order any off our vendors today and figured it was a small item too.   Those feet in the pics are for binding, but do have some wicked teeth.  I don't use them much, but they're good for zipper feet, with the outside foot, missing one of the feet.   Generally I use the standard smooth feet.  Those do look like jaws!   btw...I can't use them on the clear vinyl windows for sure.  Like driving a tractor thru mud, with the tracks.