jlsleatherworks Report post Posted February 17, 2017 I have an Adler 104-2 and need some needles for several years I have been using needles that came with the machine and they are now past the point of use. The needles I have are marked Schmet 160. I'm not sure what needles I need or where to find them. I am using 277 thread. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigpaws Report post Posted February 17, 2017 214x1, 328 (fabric) 214x2, 328 (leather point) NM 200 or 25 is listed as the minimum size for 277 thread (25, 26, 27 are recommended). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) The Adler 104 Operator's manual (Manual_Adler_104_105.pdf) may give you some additional information. It also specifies the 328 Needle system to be used. Here's a picture of the Groz Beckert Version of the 328 leather point needles, which show the various names this needle system goes by. The usual suspects in the banner ads will have them in stock and they tend to offer more guidance than the Ebay sources. Edited February 17, 2017 by Uwe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlsleatherworks Report post Posted February 18, 2017 Thanks for the guidance! Know that I know what I need getting it should be easy enough. Just my curiosity getting to me but could you explain what the size numbers mean? Are they actual dimensions of the needle or do they represent something else? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) The Nm (Number metric) needle size number is in 1/100th of millimeters, so a Nm 100 is 1.00 mm thick, a Nm 200 is 2.00mm thick, etc. The other number 20,21,22, etc. are usually Singer size designation and do not represent any actual dimensions. Edited February 18, 2017 by Uwe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlsleatherworks Report post Posted February 18, 2017 Makes perfect sense, thanks again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites