General machine questions

[bikermutt07]

So, I have been watching these auctions for sewing machines and it has produced a few questions......

Do all 206rb come with smooth presser feet and feed dogs from the factory?

Or is this something that our leather machine vendors install on the dealer level?

And after finding the little I could about a 733r I have to ask are smooth feet and feed dogs available for this machine. I have done my due googling diligence but found nothing.

And finally do any machines 441s, 227s, 1206s, 206s, 1541s, and so on come from the factory with smooth presser feet and feed dogs?

Thanks for your patience.

[JLSleather]

I used to have a 206-RB5, and it did not "come with" smooth feet, but they ARE available for it.  I'm sure Bob can fix you up if you ask. 

[bikermutt07]

27 minutes ago, JLSleather said:

I used to have a 206-RB5, and it did not "come with" smooth feet, but they ARE available for it.  I'm sure Bob can fix you up if you ask. 

Thanks Jeff.

[Wizcrafts]

I have owned a lot of walking foot machines and none had smooth feed dogs. But, Consew did offer a smooth rubber feed dog at one point in time. They may or may not still have them for sale.

All of my upholstery grade compound/triple feed machines took the standard type 111 (as in Singer 111w) feet and most of them are smooth bottomed. The few that do have teeth are usually zipper and edge binding sets, or specialty feet for marine sewing projects.

In contrast, most of the dual feed walking foot machines (top and bottom driven) I've encountered only had toothed feet available. This gives the best traction when sewing vinyl and slippery or very long items. But, it eats leather for breakfast unless you back way off on the pressure spring.

Now, onto the 441s you asked about. The top name brands of 441 clones targeted at leathercrafters all come fitted with smooth presser feet and feed dogs. This is a departure from the original version of the Juki TSC-441. Originally, it was targeted at the buffing wheel and ballistic materials market, where teeth were an advantage. Now that these machines have been hijacked by us leather sewers, smooth feet and feed dogs are in great demand. Only the off-brand 441 machines still ship with teeth on the feet and feeder. These are the no-name drop shipped machines that come to you directly from China.

In case you were going to ask, the Cobra, Cowboy and Techsew 441 clones ship with a set of so called blanket feet and matching large feeder, all of with have aggressive teeth. They are great for sewing buffing wheels!

[bikermutt07]

27 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

 

In case you were going to ask, the Cobra, Cowboy and Techsew 441 clones ship with a set of so called blanket feet and matching large feeder, all of with have aggressive teeth. They are great for sewing buffing wheels!

 

So, this is where our dealers step in and add smooth feed dogs?

[Wizcrafts]

4 hours ago, bikermutt07 said:

So, this is where our dealers step in and add smooth feed dogs?

Yes, along with the narrow, smooth harness feet. The original Juki 441 had what we now call the blanket feet. It sold for about $6,000 when I first saw it in a warehouse. The feet that ship with the Cowboy 441 clones are made of stainless steel.

Actually, the Adler 204 and 205 offered a smooth feed dog option, creating the sub-class 374 instead of 370. I had a 204-374 for a short time, before trading it for a Union Lockstitch Machine.

[bikermutt07]

Okey dokey, thanks Wiz.