29k2 on auction

[catskin]

There is a Singer 29k2 coming up on a sale in 2 days.  I looked at it and as was expected it is well worn, But the seller says it sewed right up until he broke the last needle.  Interesting things about it are, original cast iron treadle stand, original wood flat bed conversion table like seen it old singer books. Table is in very good condition for the age.   I am hoping I can get some opinions as to what some of you might consider paying if you had a chance at one like this.  If I were to buy it if it could not be made to sew decently I might part it out or sell head as is, ( for parts ) and table and stand separately.   According to web site by serial number  it was made in 1919 July to December, Clydebank Scotland.

[Constabulary]

well, its a 100 years old patcher - almost no parts are available anymore - maybe some used parts but you never know if they are really better. Just very few parts from "modern" 29K71 fit for can be made to fit. It does not help much If you buy it from a seller who just knows that it can sew. The stitch length matters - worn patchers sometimes just produce 2.5mm stitches when set to the max stitch length which is 5mm in best case (when new of well restored). So be careful - better test the patcher before you buy it. Buy a pack of 29x3 / 29x4 needles (135x17 / 135x16 also fit) and download a manual and test it. If you buy it for decorative purposes or the historical background matters - why not. if you really want to use it I´d look for a patcher you still can get parts for.

Old patchers are always a gamble!!!

EDIT:

I once restored a similar one - maybe this will give you an idea for restoration:

 

Edited September 6, 2017 by Constabulary

[Wizcrafts]

3 hours ago, catskin said:

There is a Singer 29k2 coming up on a sale in 2 days.  I looked at it and as was expected it is well worn, But the seller says it sewed right up until he broke the last needle.  Interesting things about it are, original cast iron treadle stand, original wood flat bed conversion table like seen it old singer books. Table is in very good condition for the age.   I am hoping I can get some opinions as to what some of you might consider paying if you had a chance at one like this.  If I were to buy it if it could not be made to sew decently I might part it out or sell head as is, ( for parts ) and table and stand separately.   According to web site by serial number  it was made in 1919 July to December, Clydebank Scotland.

Don't expect this old machine to be usable until you have rebuilt or replaced the worn out parts. Some gears will have to be custom milled. Other parts can be brazed or welded then reshaped to get a best fit. Shuttle drive gears for these ancient patchers are not available in the aftermarket and would have the be custom cut from steel rod. So, if the drive gear is badly worn, the timing will never be right and you'll need to have one made.

[catskin]

I have a 29k51, I have it working good. So as I said its the table and stand that are possibly interesting.  I have seen a few on here that admired others original cast stands, and the original tables seem rather rare. That is why I said that  the head is well worn I am wondering what some of you think those things would be worth if you had a chance like this.  I know that making it sew well is a crap shoot. I did get my 29k51 making stitches 5 to the inch. Or very close.  But this one may very well be beyond fixing the way I did my 51.  If the gears are done. No matter how well I happen to get the stitch length it will not sew good.  Thinking possibly screws ( my 51 is missing a couple ) and maybe parts that someone needs that are broken or missing on theirs from the head.

Edited September 6, 2017 by catskin
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[Wizcrafts]

I agree about the table and stand. After you remove the rust and repaint the stand, it will be valuable.