alexitbe Report post Posted November 9, 2017 Does anyone have any experience of these? In particular, the one piece JM 900 series. http://www.chinalsjm.com/en/products.php?catg_code=product-1 I like the sound of it because it starts from 0 rpm, unlike my Jack servo motor which startrs at 200 rpm. This would not need a pulley system to slow it down. Its avilable here in Europe, but I can find nothing on it. Cheers Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) All Motors start at 0 RPM (you have to read between the lines) but as far as I know is the next step is min. 100 or 200 RPM. its not that they have a ramp like 0 - 10 - 20 - 30 - 40.....100... 200. But maybe someone proves me wrong but that at least my experience. Guess you would buy from Sewtex? They do not have the best reputation from what I have read and my first servo also came from them and did not work at all and the 2nd made an annoying beeeeeep sound and they said it will disappear after 30 hrs or so - it did not. If you want to buy it ask if the motor REALLY has this speed ramp. But careful with what they answer, their German is very much Russian influenced so things can get lost in translation - if you know what I mean Edited November 10, 2017 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexitbe Report post Posted November 10, 2017 Haha.... Constab, what I said sounds so stupid now.... Ofcourse you are correct all machines start at 0 rpm Russian is no problem, remember I am in the East and its seems like the Russians never left ... I was going to buy it off ebay.de, since I have found ebay is easiest for returns if there is a problem. I have the Jack motor and its fine, but goes too fast for sewing the fingers on gloves... Well atleast too fast for me... and I don't want to go to the hassle of another pulley system. Maybe i will have to. Cheers Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexitbe Report post Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) This is the actual motor (link) Edited November 11, 2017 by Wizcrafts Converted huge text link code into shortened URL link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kohlrausch Report post Posted November 11, 2017 On 10.11.2017 at 10:58 PM, alexitbe said: This is the actual motor (link) Hi. In the description it says 750 Watt. On the picture it says 550 Watt. Better check before you buy. Greets Ralf C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kohlrausch Report post Posted November 11, 2017 On 9.11.2017 at 9:00 PM, alexitbe said: Does anyone have any experience of these? In particular, the one piece JM 900 series. http://www.chinalsjm.com/en/products.php?catg_code=product-1 I like the sound of it because it starts from 0 rpm, unlike my Jack servo motor which startrs at 200 rpm. This would not need a pulley system to slow it down. Its avilable here in Europe, but I can find nothing on it. Cheers Alex Hi. Mfgr claims a torque of 4 Nm out of 500 Watt at 4500 rpm. If I do the math this gets me 1 Nm. Greets Ralf C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexitbe Report post Posted November 14, 2017 Hi Ralf, Thanks for the reply. I got a response from the seller and it seems like the whole range JM700-900 has a lowest startup speed of 300 rpm. This is a surpise since sewtex are advertising the JM700 as starting at 100 rpm.. I am now considering the Ho-sing g60 and I like the simplicity of the sew-pro 550gl. However, i am not sure we can get it this side of the pond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 14, 2017 Alex - haven´t you bought the speed reducer a while a go? Not your cup of tea this thingy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexitbe Report post Posted November 14, 2017 Hi Constab, Yes, I have the speed reducer, but that is for my workhorse Durkopp, which needs the power... Now I need a motor for my glove sewing machines (will post a picture shortly) and for this I need to go really slowly for going around the fingers. Since Torque is not so important I was thinking of making one and controlling it with an Arduino... But I am a little lazy to do so... The ho-sing looks hopeful... Aerostar seem to have another servo motor which has been reported as starting at 100 rpm.. JM-822 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Servo-motor-JM822-650/252760904208? Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kohlrausch Report post Posted November 14, 2017 3 hours ago, alexitbe said: Now I need a motor for my glove sewing machines (will post a picture shortly) and for this I need to go really slowly for going around the fingers. Since Torque is not so important I was thinking of making one and controlling it with an Arduino... But I am a little lazy to do so... Hi Alex, talk to Frank Brunnet. http://www.frank-brunnet.com/ He is the Cowboy Bob of our side of the pond. I will probably get one of those http://www.ebay.de/itm/leiser-230-V-Motor-800-W-passend-für-Industrienähmaschine/322847634323?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 in the next couple of days. Greets Ralf C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted November 15, 2017 20 hours ago, alexitbe said: I am now considering the Ho-sing g60 and I like the simplicity of the sew-pro 550gl. However, i am not sure we can get it this side of the pond That motor was the SewPro 500GR (I have one). About 3 or 4 years ago, after changing the metal the body was made of to aluminum and cutting the top speed in half, causing all manner of problems and complaints from users and dealers, the employees at the factory that built nothing but that motor went out for lunch and never returned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexitbe Report post Posted November 15, 2017 Hi Wizcraft, So there is no chance of getting a SewPro then... That is a shame.... I am making gloves and I really need a slow motor... Any suggestions? Cheers Alex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexitbe Report post Posted November 15, 2017 14 hours ago, Kohlrausch said: Hi Alex, talk to Frank Brunnet. http://www.frank-brunnet.com/ He is the Cowboy Bob of our side of the pond. I will probably get one of those http://www.ebay.de/itm/leiser-230-V-Motor-800-W-passend-für-Industrienähmaschine/322847634323?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 in the next couple of days. Greets Ralf C. Hi Ralf, Thanks for the contact, I had never heard of him. Do you know the minimum speed of that motor? I will be interested to hear your opnion of the motor should you buy it. Cheers ALex Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexitbe Report post Posted November 16, 2017 Well, I remembered that I had an old Pfaff motor like this below. Surprisingly I am able to feather the pedal so that I can sew slowly. Admittedly I cannot control exactly when it stops, but in such cases where I need precise control ie when sewing the finger tips, I can turn the wheel by hand for several stitches. I have only ever used servo industrial motors, but I might consider using induction motors from now on. This is not ideal,but then again I cannot find an ideal servo motor either... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted November 16, 2017 These motors are not bad! Especially for lighter applications - but when you sew slow all the time they tend to become "quite warm" and you can smell it. however they are really nor bad! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted November 16, 2017 I can't read the spec. plate, but that looks like a brush-type motor. The screw at the top looks like a brush-holder mount, in which case it's the same type as found in electric drills etc. (not induction). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kohlrausch Report post Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) On 14.11.2017 at 8:57 AM, alexitbe said: Hi Ralf, Thanks for the reply. I got a response from the seller and it seems like the whole range JM700-900 has a lowest startup speed of 300 rpm. This is a surpise since sewtex are advertising the JM700 as starting at 100 rpm.. I am now considering the Ho-sing g60 and I like the simplicity of the sew-pro 550gl. However, i am not sure we can get it this side of the pond Hi, this appears to be the motor Sailrite is demonstrating here against their MC-SCR-system. They stopped the sewpro - set to slow sewing - with one finger. Greets Ralf C. Edited November 25, 2017 by Kohlrausch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites