Cowboy CB1618 vs CB227R vs ... ?

[Wonderboy]

Hi. We currently own a Cowboy CB4500 but we now require a second machine specifically for smaller leather items, for example things like wallets (kangaroo leather). We have tried "dumbing down" our 4500 but we think we need a second machine.

Were looking at the Cowboy range as we've been happy with the 4500. Specifically we're looking at the Cowboy CB1618 however we can't find any information at all on the machine apart from a gumtree ad and one youtube (Hightex). We're comparing it against the Cowboy CB227R however we think we prefer the flatbed of the 1618 over the cylinder arm of the 1618. We have seen YouTube videos of Uwe Grosse who makes flatbed attachments so maybe that's an option for the CB227R? That being said I like the lower position of the 1618 as it seems more ergonomic.

Can someone please tell us the specific differences between these two machines and also tell us why, even though Cowboy sells it,  we can't find a lot on the 1618...?

We've also come across the Juki 1508n (flatbed).

Thanks in advance.

[Wonderboy]

Hi. We currently own a Cowboy CB4500 but we now require a second machine specifically for smaller leather items, for example things like wallets (kangaroo leather). We have tried "dumbing down" our 4500 but we think we need a second machine.

Were looking at the Cowboy range as we've been happy with the 4500. Specifically we're looking at the Cowboy CB0618 or the CB1618 however we can't find a lot of information at all on the machines. We're comparing them against the Cowboy CB227R however we think we prefer the flatbeds over the cylinder arm of the CB227R. We have seen YouTube videos of Uwe Grosse who makes flatbed attachments so maybe that's an option for the CB227R? That being said I like the lower position of flatbeds for the items we want to make as it seems more ergonomic.

Can someone please tell us the specific differences between these three machines and also tell us why, even though Cowboy sells them,  we can't find a lot of information...?

We've also come across the Juki 1508n (flatbed).

Thanks in advance.

 

CB1618 - https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/goulburn/sewing-machines/new-cowboy-cb1618-compound-feed-canvas-upholstery-sewing-machine/1163717836

CB0618- https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bundaberg-central/miscellaneous-goods/cowboy-cb0618-upholsterer-upholstery-industrial-sewing-machine/1117224000

Edited December 22, 2017 by Wonderboy

[RockyAussie]

5 hours ago, Wonderboy said:

Thanks in advance.

Missed that last time......your welcome I guess. Merry Christmas and a very Happy new year to all.

[Wonderboy]

51 minutes ago, RockyAussie said:

Missed that last time......your welcome I guess. Merry Christmas and a very Happy new year to all.

I completely missed your reply so apologies for not thanking you.

I didn't mean to offend.

[Darren Brosowski]

GC0618 is the equivalent common model name.

All of the feet etc are the same as the 227/341 machines.

[bikermutt07]

I am staring very hard at the 341. It does everything the 227r can do and more. It has recently been confirmed that it can even handle 207 thread.

You can always make a flat bed attachment.

[Loghole]

Hi. Just wondering if you proceeded with a new machine, and if so, how you found it. I’m tossing up between CB227R, CB3200 and Cobra Class 4, but mostly what I’m looking to do is belts, bags and wallets with the odd project being heavier tack. Any thoughts or experiences you’ve had that you’re willing to share would be appreciated. 

[brmax]

I think your narrowing it down!

If you could at the present decide just how thick of thread you want or dont want to “see” on your double layerd belts this will shorten the deciding process. 

Im pretty sure most people find a median in their projects that require little change in their machine adjustments. This is also the very same problem why you see a couple different machines in their future.

Im not sure the reason factories do this but i think its just to be cool 

So to really nail it down, a mention of wallet designs of interest specfically or a few photos may help others fine tune their answer to help. IE my biker friends wallets on a chain that some use. These tend to use bigger thread for looks mostly, not that 138 and under isn't perfectly fine. 

In that example; under one tent there maybe all gear with 138 and under thread and his or her buddys tent next may have all big thread in the same gear. In that I can mean gear that doesnt really require that thread strength. 

But unless ya have a friend that you can help offset this specific and probably promote each other, well ya just have to make the decision. 

 

Good day

Floyd