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Guys I did this seat and I air brushed on my dye using a mix of  Briar Brown,  Red with a 1/2 oz water . Both dyes are Eco FLo.  I made my own sealant using Bees Wax and a variety of oils (all high quality) but no matter what I do I can't seem to get it to seal (I even used Satin sheen (5 coats airbrushed on) the first time) but the second any water hits it I lose my color and it leaves spots.  I'm trying to figure out why I can't get my dye to seal in. HELP!!!!

 

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I consider the eco flo dyes as flammable fluids not leather dyes... I use the fiebings pro oil dyes and their “seal” nicely, I also made a mixture of beeswax and neadsfoot oil and it and the Aussie leather conditioner works ecseptionaly well looks good though.

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I've never had problems with the eco's before but this is the first time I've tried mixing them to come up with a different color and I'm new to air brushing ... didn't know if maybe these had something to do with it .... I dyed the seat again today and let the seat dry in the sun for a good hour between coats (5 coats) then applied my own sealant in 3 heavy coats then did a conditioner I made .... again just now I wetted down a towel and all the work I did today just wiped right off ... I'm at a major loss here ... TY for replying Carson

 

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So I went from this first pic to the second with a wipe of a wet towel

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Is the dye penetrating into the leather at all? Have you dyed this leather previously successfully.? Is the dye holding in place well and is it just your sealing coats playing up? 

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it seems like the black is getting in but the rest isn't penetrating maybe?  as you can see in the pic my black fade from the lace and in the tooled lines seems to be staying pretty well. And no Rocky this was a fresh piece that I tooled out from a 3-4 oz veggie tanned leather and I hit it with Olive Oil and let it fully dry before I tried to dye it the first time ... Also I tried the sealant on a piece of the same leather that I made a wrist bracer out of and dyed it ... used the sealant and it was water proof when I finished it, didn't lose any dye at all and with a lot less drying time

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That is a nice looking job panku82. I have never used olive oil as you have and can only assume you have done previously and are comfortable with using it. I can only think that the combination mix you have come up with is able to react with the eco flo. I don't know but I think the only solution is to make up a few sample bits and get them to the same stage and then try going through a few cleaners and see which will give you the best dry feeling finish to try again, with a different finish of course. I would check your local shoe repair shops for a product for cleaning shoes before they are colour changed. It would normally be caller preparer in one brand or another. I can not think of any thing else I'm sorry. Brian

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ok that's a idea of where to start ... I very much appreciate your taking time to comment and help!! And Thank You ... took a lot of work because I can't draw for crap so took me a while to come up with that design LoL  

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:) everything always works out in the end my friend ... just how long does it take and how much work does one have to put in to get it to where we are satisfied with it! lol  ... again much appreciated!

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