Roger Report post Posted June 9, 2007 the brown one got finished up mid week and the black one will be done tomorrow. i still need to burnish the edges on the black bag and give it a couple coats of pecards. i should really charge more for them as they generally take me about 8 hours Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esantoro Report post Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) the brown one got finished up mid week and the black one will be done tomorrow. i still need to burnish the edges on the black bag and give it a couple coats of pecards. i should really charge more for them as they generally take me about 8 hours Nice bags, Beez. My bags also take me between 8 and 10 hours. I'm beginning to think about outsourcing some of the work but wonder how it would be possible to get quality work that's affordable. What kind of rivets are you using? They look like the Belgium Jiffy Rivets. I'm on the lookout for similar but stronger rivets. Ed Edited June 9, 2007 by esantoro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted June 9, 2007 thanks ed! i use solid brass double cap jiffy rivets. i wish i could have the parts pre cut for me. i don't charge near enough for the time i spend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esantoro Report post Posted June 10, 2007 thanks ed!i use solid brass double cap jiffy rivets. i wish i could have the parts pre cut for me. i don't charge near enough for the time i spend This is the problem I'm running into and I'm trying to find a way that I can make my leatherwork a fulltime obsession, passion, which means I've got to outsource some of the work if I want to sell 20 to 30 bags a month. Just today I was looking into getting a Tippmann Clicker for $3000, but I think a better way is to buy the cutting dies for about $150 apiece. I would need only four for two sizes of bags. Then I could buy 30 sides or shoulders when they go on sale and rent time on a clicker press somewhere, maybe $15 an hour. I could cut out all my major pieces for that month's work in just a few hours. Beez, you're making motorcycle bags. Do you think the brass jiffys are strong enough. If they're strong enough for your bags, then they've certainly got to be strong enough for my briefcases that will simply be carried by a human, not travelling on a bike going 60 mph or faster. My one concern about the Brass jiffys is that I will soon have an application that allows the briefcase to be slung as a backpack. For this application I need to rivet an O-ring to the top of the bag. Underneath the leather the O-ring will be supported by a 1/8" thick aluminum bar. The Jiffy rivet will go through the leather holding the o-ring onto the top of the bag (2 x 5/6 oz), the flap leather of the briefcase (1 x 5/6 oz), and then through the 1/8" thick aluminum support bar. I'm not certain a brass jiffy rivet is strong enough for such an application. I'm experimenting right now with the 350 jumbo steel tubular rivets and caps from Ohio Travel Bags. This might be the way to go for me. Thanks again for the picks. Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 10, 2007 Beautiful work Beeze Dave Theobald Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaverslayer Report post Posted June 10, 2007 They look real good Beeza, I especially like the lettering on the Dragon bag. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luke Hatley Report post Posted June 10, 2007 This is the problem I'm running into and I'm trying to find a way that I can make my leatherwork a fulltime obsession, passion, which means I've got to outsource some of the work if I want to sell 20 to 30 bags a month. Just today I was looking into getting a Tippmann Clicker for $3000, but I think a better way is to buy the cutting dies for about $150 apiece. I would need only four for two sizes of bags. Then I could buy 30 sides or shoulders when they go on sale and rent time on a clicker press somewhere, maybe $15 an hour. I could cut out all my major pieces for that month's work in just a few hours. Beez, you're making motorcycle bags. Do you think the brass jiffys are strong enough. If they're strong enough for your bags, then they've certainly got to be strong enough for my briefcases that will simply be carried by a human, not travelling on a bike going 60 mph or faster. My one concern about the Brass jiffys is that I will soon have an application that allows the briefcase to be slung as a backpack. For this application I need to rivet an O-ring to the top of the bag. Underneath the leather the O-ring will be supported by a 1/8" thick aluminum bar. The Jiffy rivet will go through the leather holding the o-ring onto the top of the bag (2 x 5/6 oz), the flap leather of the briefcase (1 x 5/6 oz), and then through the 1/8" thick aluminum support bar. I'm not certain a brass jiffy rivet is strong enough for such an application. I'm experimenting right now with the 350 jumbo steel tubular rivets and caps from Ohio Travel Bags. This might be the way to go for me. Thanks again for the picks. Ed ED, AT ONE TIME WEAVER LEATHER would make your dies and cut the leather for a certain price. It might be worth your while to get in touch with them about your saddle bags.. just a thought Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted June 10, 2007 the jiffy rivets are strong enough for what i am doing. you are dealing with a bit more thickness and they will be load bearing. tubular, solid or pop rivets may be the way to go. Beautiful work BeezeDave Theobald thanks dave!! They look real good Beeza, I especially like the lettering on the Dragon bag.Ken thanks ken!! i would have liked to do a bit more tooling on that bag but was happy with it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leathernut Report post Posted June 16, 2007 roger whats up.its dan or [aka] seatfreak from clubchopper.your like the air man ,your every where lol.great site here .lots of talent..i gotta say roger is the one of the main reasons i got into bike seats.very helpful always lending a hand in a pinch.your stand up guy roger.thanks for all your help in the past..any new seats in the works??? DAN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted June 16, 2007 rogerwhats up.its dan or [aka] seatfreak from clubchopper.your like the air man ,your every where lol.great site here .lots of talent..i gotta say roger is the one of the main reasons i got into bike seats.very helpful always lending a hand in a pinch.your stand up guy roger.thanks for all your help in the past..any new seats in the works??? DAN thanks dan! there are many people here willing to share their knowledge. i am working on a seat, p-pad and backrest right now. i am hoping to finish some of it up before heading to the smokeout the middle of next week Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnD Report post Posted June 17, 2007 Very nice bags. I came across some of your work today in NH. A '67 BSA (that took first in the brit class). Excellent work. Chris had nothing but good things to say about you and your work. If you do make it to the smoke out this year, Check out the ACME Choppers tent. I'll be hanging out there. It'd be great to meet you. John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted June 17, 2007 Very nice bags.I came across some of your work today in NH. A '67 BSA (that took first in the brit class). Excellent work. Chris had nothing but good things to say about you and your work. If you do make it to the smoke out this year, Check out the ACME Choppers tent. I'll be hanging out there. It'd be great to meet you. John very cool john! yes, chris let me go to it on that seat. i got some new tools not long after doing that seat for him that have improved my tooling. chris builds some good looking bikes. i ha ve known him from the forums for a few years and met him at the smokeout last year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
