Kryptonite Report post Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) I have a Pfaff 545 H3. The owners manual clearly states the H3 uses the 134-35 system and the H4 uses the 190 system. My H3 that I bought last week is using 190 needles. I plan on using 138 and 207 thread so I need to get some larger needles. Do I stick with the 190 system or should I go to the manual recommended 134-35 system and adjust the needle bar? Would that be the only adjustment that required? Thank you, Will in Central Florida Edited March 20, 2018 by Kryptonite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wabbit Report post Posted March 20, 2018 K - I thought I read here or on the Hotrod forum that one can raise the needle bar to accommodate the longer 190 system needles and possibly do some retiming. I am assuming that the shank diameter will fit. I am no expert.... e Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted March 20, 2018 The H4 has a higher foot lift & with the 135-35 needle in it the needle would hit the foot with the feet up that's why it needs the longer needle.Your machine shouldn't lift that high UNLESS someone put the higher lifter handle on it & that's why it's marked to use the 190 only.The problem w/the 190 is it's longer so it will flex & break easier than the 134-35. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregg From Keystone Sewing Report post Posted March 20, 2018 H4 has a higher lift, and needs the 190 system needles to work correctly here. H3 uses 134-35. If you go from one system to the next, you will have to change needle bar height (not hook timing). Shank is the same, but keep in mind the longer the needle, the more deflection. Just now, CowboyBob said: The H4 has a higher foot lift & with the 135-35 needle in it the needle would hit the foot with the feet up that's why it needs the longer needle.Your machine shouldn't lift that high UNLESS someone put the higher lifter handle on it & that's why it's marked to use the 190 only.The problem w/the 190 is it's longer so it will flex & break easier than the 134-35. Ha, beat me by seconds! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites