What Model Kingsley is this?

[OnceFoundCo]

Hi, 

Hoping someone can tell me what Model Kingsley this is? I think it's an M-50 but not 100% sure. 

Thx

[RockyAussie]

@OnceFoundCo I have 2 similar machines and the closest looking one says Mk2 (65watt) and the other says M60 and is 60 watt.

[OnceFoundCo]

Thanks @RockyAussie

Are you looking to sell any of your machines? I'm in Adelaide

Cheers

[RockyAussie]

I do have a few (5 of different types) but as I am a bit out of the normal market/manufacturing area up here I like to always have some backup and 3 are always on the go. If you care to show me the type of stamping or the variety of uses you need to do I may be able to give you a good solution.  For an example the Kingsley machines here pictured are very limited in height and can be useless if you need to emboss anything thicker than about 1 1/2". Lids on boxes for products can be a no go for example. Lack of depth for a product to go back into can also be a problem. How large a stamp do you need to emboss? If you only require a stamp less than 2" then a drill press can give you more room for adjustment than many embossing machines can but a heated block for holding the stamps would need to be sorted. I have previously experimented with this and found my tests promising but haven't really needed to do much more with it do to having other machine alternatives already. If I were to take this a little further I would make a block to hold a 60 or 80 watt soldering iron or just buy the cylinder elements in that wattage and hook it up to a light dimmer switch which I have done at times for some other similar projects as seen in the last picture for ironing in the edging on the croc belts.

The heat was not enough for the foil embossing above due to me just using a heat gun to warm the block and guessing incorrectly it was hot enough.

Note in the middle of picture in the background a box made to hold the light dimmer switch. Although I have been using these for many years the risks of doing it are all yours if you do. I have every fancy micro cut out switch in the system and although they have never been set off doing this I would still make sure they were in operation in case.

[OnceFoundCo]

Thanks @RockyAussie

The purpose of the machine is fairly basic. I'm looking to blind emboss leather dummy straps (example attached) with the name of baby or initials etc. The thickness of this leather is about 1.8-2.0mm. The leather is veg tan, however, not natural, it will be sealed and dyed... that's why I think a heated machine is best to leave a quality impression. 

On a seperate note, there's a fantastic video here 

Any advice you can give would be great. 

Cheers,

[RockyAussie]

Do you have letter sets already? The letters in the video by Harry Rogers will not take much, if any heat which is a shame. I am just wondering if a laser might not be a better answer for you at this stage if you don't have a letter set already. Last time I looked you could get a 40 watt laser for just over $500 here in Aus. Maybe try H Leffler and sons in Melbourne as they have a notice board for second hand stuff there or at least they did when I was last there. http://www.lefflerleather.com.au/leffler_contact.htm

[OnceFoundCo]

Thanks @RockyAussie.

I'll have a look at H Leffler. 

I looked into laser, however, it's not the effect I'm looking for. I don't have letter sets already, however, I've identified some suppliers that can create letters in a certain font for a reasonable price. And from my research, most machines are compatible with letters, even if the type holder needs some minor customising. 

Appreciate your help.

Cheers,

[RockyAussie]

14 hours ago, OnceFoundCo said:

I've identified some suppliers that can create letters in a certain font for a reasonable price

You mentioned a machine type elsewhere  and that company make letter sets in the US as well. I ordered in a set from them last year and they are crap in comparison to the kingsley letter sets. They are very roughly finished and the lead content is so high that just packing them into a container to separate the letters out made my fingers all black. Probably why I am going madder than usual. They are so bad and soft I will not use them.

[OnceFoundCo]

Thanks @RockyAussie I was looking at some Brass ones Etsy - for example https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/275515814/interchangeable-alphabet-letter-stamps?ref=unav_listing-other-8

This is all new to me though so will be good to get your opinion. 

Cheers,

 

 

[RockyAussie]

33 minutes ago, OnceFoundCo said:

Thanks @RockyAussie I was looking at some Brass ones Etsy - for example https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/275515814/interchangeable-alphabet-letter-stamps?ref=unav_listing-other-8

This is all new to me though so will be good to get your opinion. 

Cheers,

 

 

The stamps look nice and deep and should therefore be good to use.....But the second review there is a worry. 6 letters in the block would not be enough but more the worry of only 1 of each letter for that price. There is many an occasion where you need 2 to sometimes three of the same letter in a name. Have a look in a baby name book. The letter sets I have generally have 3 or more letters of each. I would look for Kingsley letter sets on ebay along the line you would like.There are quite a few. I did see some Kingsley machines pretty cheap as well.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Kingsley-Hot-Foil-Stamping-Machine-with-gold-silver-foil/192529296915?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50543%26meid%3D5b4415a34463466a90d9b82875b690aa%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D263653689847%26itm%3D192529296915&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

Match that with this to get any letter holder you could want https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Kingsley-Hot-Foil-Stamping-Machine-with-gold-silver-foil/192529296915?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50543%26meid%3D5b4415a34463466a90d9b82875b690aa%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D263653689847%26itm%3D192529296915&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

And here for an example is one of the fonts from Kingsley and look down and you will see a few others quite affordable. Note the 3+letters https://www.ebay.com/itm/KINGSLEY-HOT-FOIL-MACHINE-TYPE-FONT-LETTERS-NEWPORT-MONOGRAM-SET-SORTED/253602297923?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D50543%26meid%3Dd6728ff3da8341eb8ccf5c7332fbd94a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D11%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D352346329350%26itm%3D253602297923&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Regards Brian