phankey Report post Posted September 11, 2018 Good Morning!, First I would like to say thank you for all the information I have found so far about all the various topics about leather! There is a lot to learn. I have an opportunity to purchase a Ferdco/Juki Pro 2000 that was purchased new in February 1998. The machine is being sold by a relative (?) since the owner is now in a nursing home. The person knows nothing about the machine, so doesn't know if it was made in Japan or China. I did see a copy of the cancelled check for $6100. Does the cost alone mean it's from Japan? The person is asking $1800 and said one like this unit was just sold. I would appreciate any feedback/opinions as to if you think this is worth pursuing. Thanks very much. Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phankey Report post Posted September 11, 2018 Here's a few more photos of machine. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JKHelms Report post Posted September 11, 2018 I have that same machine and love it.I paid 2k for mine used. Mine doesn't have the thread lubricant pot on top though. I also changed the clutch motor out with a servomotor I already had. Good machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phankey Report post Posted September 11, 2018 Thanks for the reply, that's good to know it's reliable. Do you know where it was made? What manual do you use, the Juki 441? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JKHelms Report post Posted September 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, phankey said: Thanks for the reply, that's good to know it's reliable. Do you know where it was made? What manual do you use, the Juki 441? I use a cowboy 4500 manual or the Cobra 4 pretty much the same machine. Most parts will interchange,but I have found the Cowboy and Cobra presser feet are about a 1/4" longer. I reworked my feet so I didn't have to keep adjusting the machine. Got called a redneck and dumbass for doing it, but it worked for me. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Nelson Report post Posted October 11, 2018 That machine was imported by Ferdco, from Japan, and then set up for heavy leather by them. They are very reliable and very long lasting. I purchased one 4 or 5 years older than that one a couple of months ago. I love it but am going to convert it to Servo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Gates Report post Posted July 8, 2019 I have a JUKI 441 which is the bases for this machine Ferdco modified them as a previous person said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awharness Report post Posted July 8, 2019 I have a juki 441 also, plus I have a juki 341 that Ferdco did over as a 808 (I think) base machine is great, and ferdco did a good job setting them up. You can adjust for all the different feet, feed dogs, needle plates ect. Servo motor would be a well worth it investment, fair price id say Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonSB Report post Posted October 25 Hi all. I am new to all of this and have been learning a lot reading old posts. I want to get a heavy machine to do various horse related leather projects . I found a 1994 Frdco 2000 locally. It has a grey frame and says "juki" on it as well as Ferdoco. It is being sold by the original owner and has had very little use. It comes with many spools of thread and many different small parts. He said when he bought it the dealer delivered it and set it up for him. 1994 seems to be before Ferdco moved to Tiawan and also made other changes to the 2000. I havn't been able to determone what other changes were made in 1995. Any advise on weather I should get this one or a new Cowboy or Cobra would be great. Cost is #$3,000 Thank you! Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted October 26 Very good machine. The Juki 441 was converted to a Pro2000 by Ferdco out of Idaho. Company later sold to Hoffman Brothers in Chicago. They still do the conversions to a Pro 2000 but head come out of Taiwan. The machine you are looking at is an original 441, not a clone from Cowboy or Cobra. That head today is about $6,400.00. I would keep this machine. Ferdco never went to Taiwan. They only got heads form there or China. Changes to make a 441 to a Pro 2000 would be feed dog, throat plate, feet. Your machine could be converted back to a 441 like the Cobra and Cowboy. Chances are the original parts are there. Pics please for us. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonSB Report post Posted October 27 Thank you Glenn! I will post pictures when i get the machine. Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonSB Report post Posted 7 hours ago (edited) Hi all, I've been away for a couple of weeks. Got home and installed the servo motor that I got from the folks at Cobra. Very good customer service by the way. Here are a couple of pictures, not the best with the light glare. It seems to be working well, just starting to get busy with it. Thanks for the help! Jon Edited 6 hours ago by Northmount Replaced zip file with jpegs it contained Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted 6 hours ago 20 minutes ago, JonSB said: Here are a couple of pictures Please post jpeg or png files. Many members will not download unknown files. Replaced your zip file with the jpegs it contained. The jpegs and png files automatically display, not requiring a download to see them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonSB Report post Posted 6 hours ago Thank you Northmount. I'll try to figure that out. My son took the pictures and emailed them to me. Not sure how to post the jpegs but I'll work on it. Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
