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42 minutes ago, pepeunidos said:

The amount of knowledge on this site is staggering. Please keep it coming. I'm starting to come up with a budget for these machines based on everything that I'm seeing on this thread (har har! see what I did there? I kill myself sometimes). For my needs, I'm considering the following:

Juki LU1508-N or clone of same (Thor GC-1508, Artisan 1508-10H)

Consew 206 RB-5 or Chandler CM406RB-1 (to my untrained eye, looks like a clone of the Consew, but couldn't find enough specs regarding the feed to say for sure)

Cobra Class 18

Cowboy 227R with some kind of flatbed jig/attachment

Eventually, as a second, something a little heavier like a Cowboy 3200 for the sheaths and holsters. I don't ever expect to be doing anything heavier than that, like saddles or tack. A huge factor regarding the purchase is whether I can pick it up instead of having it shipped.

Thanks to everyone for posting on this thread. I sure do appreciate it.

 

 

If I were to pick one flatbed machine of all of those it would be the Artisan. It's based on the Juki 1508N*H* and is a "heavy" version of the 1508N with a little more capacity and longer needle stroke. Also square feed locus which really does improve feed ability. (the feed dogs move squarely up and back, not in an ellipse)

Good machines, I've seen em in person in SF and test drove a few. (Artisan is next door to the place I bought my Juki)

The rest of the machines you listed can go up to 138 thread, (give or take) the 1508-10H can in theory go up to 277 although 207 is prob more reasonable. Of all the clones out there, the ones based off of later model Juki square feed machines are my favorite.

Keep your eyes peeled on Craigs List though! These made-in-Japan Juki's crop up on there from time to time for decent prices.

 

 

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8 hours ago, R8R said:

If I were to pick one flatbed machine of all of those it would be the Artisan. It's based on the Juki 1508N*H* and is a "heavy" version of the 1508N with a little more capacity and longer needle stroke. Also square feed locus which really does improve feed ability. (the feed dogs move squarely up and back, not in an ellipse)

Good machines, I've seen em in person in SF and test drove a few. (Artisan is next door to the place I bought my Juki)

The rest of the machines you listed can go up to 138 thread, (give or take) the 1508-10H can in theory go up to 277 although 207 is prob more reasonable. Of all the clones out there, the ones based off of later model Juki square feed machines are my favorite.

Keep your eyes peeled on Craigs List though! These made-in-Japan Juki's crop up on there from time to time for decent prices.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, R8R said:

1541S with free delivery...

https://austin.craigslist.org/app/d/juki-dnu-1541s-walking-foot/6691001136.html

Honestly that Cowboy with the flatbed might be everything you'd need to sew thin leather all the way up to the max you'd want to go. Priced right too.

Thanks R8R - this is all excellent information. I did see these machines on the Austin CL page, but gonna have to let these pass by. I'm figuring out what my budget is and how much I need to set aside to make it work. There will be others, I'm sure!

Pepe Unidos

Austin, TX

The CLASH, cars with fins, electric guitars, and MAD Magazine, have made me into the man I am today

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Hello friends - I spied this on my local CL listing and was wondering if based on this discussion, this machine would be suitable for my first one?

https://austin.craigslist.org/for/d/industrial-walking-foot/6709436556.html

Thanks in advance

Pepe Unidos

Austin, TX

The CLASH, cars with fins, electric guitars, and MAD Magazine, have made me into the man I am today

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19 hours ago, pepeunidos said:

Hello friends - I spied this on my local CL listing and was wondering if based on this discussion, this machine would be suitable for my first one?

https://austin.craigslist.org/for/d/industrial-walking-foot/6709436556.html

Thanks in advance

Have you read the entire description of  what is for sale? The table is NOT included and the machine breaks thread.That means you will need to buy a table with the proper size cutout, hinges and rubber mounts, a K or H legs frame with a floor pedal and linkage, a thread stand, flex lamp, bobbin winder, machine tilt back peg, v-belt and drawer. All this may cost as much as the head itself. And, you may have trouble controlling a clu6tch motor at slow leather sewing speeds.

This will not be a good first industrial sewing machine purchase.  You will probably need to at least double your budget unless a super deal falls out of the sky.

Posted IMHO, by Wiz

My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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