ksshane Report post Posted August 20, 2006 I have a book on lacing, but it really doesnt have a whole lot of information on different types of lacing techniques. What books does everyone recommend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Katzke Report post Posted August 21, 2006 I have a book on lacing, but it really doesnt have a whole lot of information on different types of lacing techniques.What books does everyone recommend? Will look to see. We have a very good one but it is out of print. I will see what else I can recomend. Tom Katzke Central Oregon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Major Report post Posted August 23, 2006 The Encyclopedia of Leather Braiding is an excellent resource. Tandy and Hide Crafter both have it, it covers alot more than just lacing though. A smaller version is Leather Braiding doesnt have all the knots that the other book has. Both are by Bruce Grant. I dont think Tom Hall ever did a book on lacing. But if he did I would pick it up. All I've seen from him are his books on Turks Heads (Which are Excellent!) Tandy also has some smaller books on lacing. But all those techniques are covered in the above books. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Katzke Report post Posted August 24, 2006 Will look to see. We have a very good one but it is out of print. I will see what else I can recomend.Tom Katzke Central Oregon Well I looked and our favorite book is out of print. I will defer to others that can refer you to a book that is available. Tom Katzke Central Oregon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Hammons Report post Posted August 24, 2006 I seen a Leather Braiding by Bruce Grant on E-Bay yesterday going pretty cheap Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johanna Report post Posted August 25, 2006 Bruce Grant's books are not out out of print, and they cover a lot more than lacing- There are so many kinds of lacing- from decorative to stitching. Tandy sells a book with pretty basic instructions. Hey, Braider from up north! Post in and show us some examples! Johanna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregory B. Moody Report post Posted August 27, 2006 "different types of lacing techniques. What books does everyone recommend?" Well, I am famous for answering questions people did not ask....and sometimes did not want to know... but why stop now ? There are only two good edge treatments that I know of. A slicked edge like a belt usually gets....and the standard Double Cordovan Stitch. Other treatments either look cheap ( single loop ) or don't hide and finish the edge or take the risk of overpowering the piece....like Triple Cordovan ( which also uses an incredible amount of expensive lace to cover the same edge that the Double Cordovan will cover just fine. Tom Hall spent several days here at the house visiting with my father a while back... and in learing enough to help out at the braiding class he was giving at the local Tandy store I learned a couple of things I had not picked up before... One, serious braiding people skive the edges of the lace. There are little machines which can do this... but Tom used masking tape to secure a single edge razor blade to his hand while I walked backwards pulling the lace... amazing... when doing Turks heads and fancy stuff like that it really makes the piece look neat to not have the edges showing... Two, lubricate your lace before using... either white saddle soap ... or neutral shoe polish... the lace will be the first part of your project to dry out anyway.... and for braiding it allows you to pull it tight and then when it dries some be even tighter.... Warning.... you do NOT pull normal Double Cordovan lacing tight on billfolds, etc... you just ' lay it up' ... taking the space out.... but decidedly loose... then when you finish you take a mallet and gently flatten it by tapping in the same plane as the face of your project... The book by Tandy called " Lucky Seven photocarve patterns " which has 7 billford patterns has the standard Double Cordovan instruction on page 14 and 15. However, I always suggest the use of the " hook and eye" lacing needle ( just gently push the hook in with your hammer handle .. don't smash it... I have some over 10 years old ) ... And I suggest the alternate ending procedure shown in figure 15 on page 15 ... taking the end down between the pieces of leather... with very little practice no one will be able to see where you start and finish... Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney Wood Report post Posted August 28, 2006 I have a book on lacing, but it really doesnt have a whole lot of information on different types of lacing techniques.What books does everyone recommend? I don't recall another book than Grant, but Hidecrafters has a cd by Chan geer that just about covers them all. I prefer to lace in a stitching horse and use a saddle awl. you can turn the awl to 40 degrees or so and slightly overlap the holesto close the lace up a little better. MOST OF MY CUSTOMERS PREFER THE ROUND BRAID LACE IN TWO COLORS over the cordoba. scuse the caps lock. Sidney Wood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney Wood Report post Posted August 28, 2006 I have a book on lacing, but it really doesnt have a whole lot of information on different types of lacing techniques. Excuse the sloppy post to this a while ago I found a sampler that I may have posted before, but it shows some two color work I did for people to chose from. Two round braids, and two cordoba patterns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ksshane Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Thank you all for the replies. Very informative. Gregory B. Moody, By all means... Anytime you see a post by me... Please feel more than welcome to "answer questions people did not ask". You answered questions I did not even know to ask. The saddle soap on the lace before starting for example... Never even thought of that, but it makes so much sense. Thank you Sidney Wood, Sidney, My past couple of projects I have used the Cardoba patterns, but my latest I have taken a stap at a round lacing pattern. And although I have to admit I really like the overall look. After reading Gregory B's reply I have to wonder if this is cost effective. For now (for me anyway) thats not a major concern because I am not using the 40.00 a roll roo lace, but as I hope to get better I am sure I will be moving up to that. Again, Thanks everyone for the replies, and will be looking for those books. Sounds like another trip to Tandys is in my near future, and a search on ebay...LOL... Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johanna Report post Posted August 30, 2006 Not to hijack this topic, but is it possible to get goat lace any more? Roo is fine lace, but nothing beats goat. It disappeared from the market about, what, ten years ago? If anyone has a supplier, I'd be interested to know who. I like the way goat is a little thinner, but twice as tough. It will take being beaten down and slicked hard, and just looks and wears better over time. Kangaroo will break more easily, especially if it gets dry. JMO, YMMV. Johanna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Major Report post Posted August 30, 2006 Not to hijack this topic, but is it possible to get goat lace any more? Roo is fine lace, but nothing beats goat. It disappeared from the market about, what, ten years ago? If anyone has a supplier, I'd be interested to know who. I like the way goat is a little thinner, but twice as tough. It will take being beaten down and slicked hard, and just looks and wears better over time. Kangaroo will break more easily, especially if it gets dry. JMO, YMMV.Johanna If you find a place let me know. I agree with you about its performance. I have resulted in cutting the lace myself when I need it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatthewD Report post Posted February 9, 2007 (edited) Okay started looking around and found this for the goat lacing.. I have not ordered from them, so I can't say anything but they have it http://www.psdaimaandsons.com/psdaima/prod...her/chart16.htm or http://www.earthguild.com/products/cords/leathrlc.htm Edited February 9, 2007 by MatthewD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney Wood Report post Posted February 9, 2007 w:coffee: :coffee: I missed this one before. About goat lace- There is a 2/3 oz goat skin available form a couple of places that is tanned for boot lining that is usually reasonable in price. Hardke in El Paso had it last time I checked. I buy the natural (pearl) because it takes oil dye real well. One of these skins and an Aussie strander from Weavers (Tandy L.F can get you one, and I think Hidecrafters has them also) will cut a lot of lace in a short time. (any width you need) Sidney Wood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatthewD Report post Posted April 3, 2007 Does anyone have a link for doing a round lacing pattern similar to what Sidney posted... I have the Grant book on the way but I am getting a little impatient about starting... thanks ahead of time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$$hobby Report post Posted April 3, 2007 I have Leather brading by Grant and. "Leathercraft - Lacing and Saddle Stitching" Book 3 by Gick Pictorial instruction books "How to Lace", New revised edition, by E.U. Drake they are both magazine type books. not alot of heavy reading material and both are old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatthewD Report post Posted April 3, 2007 Hobby... thanks but I was hoping that someone would be able to point to a spot on the web or a tutorial that I have not been able to find in my search for one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Major Report post Posted April 3, 2007 Hobby... thanks but I was hoping that someone would be able to point to a spot on the web or a tutorial that I have not been able to find in my search for one. Try this. This was circulated on another list. round_braid.pdf round_braid.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatthewD Report post Posted April 3, 2007 Thanks I think that might just do the trick.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrice Report post Posted April 4, 2007 Try this. This was circulated on another list. What his the name of the book where you take this tutorial for mexican braiding? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Major Report post Posted April 4, 2007 What his the name of the book where you take this tutorial for mexican braiding? Don't know. I had it saved on my computer from an email that someone sent me from another list. Sorry I can not be of help, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johanna Report post Posted April 4, 2007 "Lacing and Stitching for Leathercraft" My copy is old and marked stock # 1906 with a price of $2.99. Tandy Leather Factory http://www.tandyleather.com/ Johanna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stan Report post Posted February 22, 2010 Not to hijack this topic, but is it possible to get goat lace any more? Roo is fine lace, but nothing beats goat. It disappeared from the market about, what, ten years ago? If anyone has a supplier, I'd be interested to know who. I like the way goat is a little thinner, but twice as tough. It will take being beaten down and slicked hard, and just looks and wears better over time. Kangaroo will break more easily, especially if it gets dry. JMO, YMMV. Johanna I just ordered some from HideHouse, Dave in San Dimas, 1-866-527-5467. When I get it and try it out, I'll let you know what I think. Stan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
