Roger's seat tutorial

[Roger]

roger

got a quick question.when you lay down the neoprene as the base,do you take the polymer insert cut out the middle and laid it in?and what kind of blue foam do you lay over that.is that like 1/8 thick or so..i got a few customers askin about polymer inserts and havent tried by hand at them yet..how much do the polymer inserts go for?where do you get them.what do you charge for all the foam work is that include in your price..thanks

Dan

i cut the insert to shape, then cut the seat foam. i use 1/4" over top. cost of the inserts depends on the size.

price depends on the size. if i remember right, they start at $50-$60 plus $10 shipping. i include padding in the price.

i use http://www.brooklynbuttbuffer.com/ for the inserts. you will need to contact them and let them know you only need the insert. let them know roger from mutha country choppers sent you thier way

[ETW Grumpy]

Hey Roger, great tutorial. What size holes/lace are you using and what is the spacing? Is the spacing on the top piece different than the spacing on the side piece(s)/ Cool work, thanks for putting it out there.

[Roger]

Hey Roger, great tutorial. What size holes/lace are you using and what is the spacing? Is the spacing on the top piece different than the spacing on the side piece(s)/ Cool work, thanks for putting it out there.

1/8" roo lace and holes. i space mine around 1/2". i mark the holes in the side to match the top as shown in the pics. the spacing is the same on the straight areas and opens up on the curves. i just mark the hole straight out from the holes in the top

[Justis Cases]

Roger is not only talented on motorcycle seats but did an excellent job for me on one of my cue cases. He was in constant contact during the process and it could not have gone smoother. I look forward to working with Roger on future projects. Great job, Roger, my customer is 100% satisfied!

Jack Justis

Justis Cases

[Roger]

Roger is not only talented on motorcycle seats but did an excellent job for me on one of my cue cases. He was in constant contact during the process and it could not have gone smoother. I look forward to working with Roger on future projects. Great job, Roger, my customer is 100% satisfied!

Jack Justis

Justis Cases

very cool jack!!

i was hoping to see some pics of the completed case. it was great working with you and i'm glad that jim was happy with the result

[JustWakinUp]

i cut the insert to shape, then cut the seat foam. i use 1/4" over top. cost of the inserts depends on the size.

price depends on the size. if i remember right, they start at $50-$60 plus $10 shipping. i include padding in the price.

i use http://www.brooklynbuttbuffer.com/ for the inserts. you will need to contact them and let them know you only need the insert. let them know roger from mutha country choppers sent you thier way

I'm a complete newbie here and want to say thank you for the excellent presentation of this tutorial.

On a second note, paying $50 - $60 per insert is a very high price to pay when you can purchase from the manufacturer of the gel who buttbuffer used for half that price and make 2 inserts out of the size they will send you. They no longer cut the shape for you which allows you more freedom to design a comfortable seat. ( use a pair of shears and silicone spray to cut it your shape) They also have the final layer that we usually put on the seat and it is a frothed gel which is absolutely amazing. (your ass will thank you for using this) You can do all that for way less beezachoppa.

I do not work for this company, I'm a biker/new tooler that wanted more comfort out of his seat and found the solution in Kemmler Products. You can visit them

www.kemmlerproducts.com

These are the guys that sold to buttbuffer and got them their reputation, I can't speak highly enough of Tom over at kemmler. He's been helping me make peoples motorcycle seats comfortable for a while now.

Your customers will want to kiss you !

Couple of question though..

Which beveler did you use to stamp with, those bevels are extremely clean, and so far mine have come out way too fat !

What weight are you using for the top of the seat? 6-7oz

Why is the side pieces of leather white?

Edited August 6, 2007 by JustWakinUp

[Roger]

I'm a complete newbie here and want to say thank you for the excellent presentation of this tutorial.

On a second note, paying $50 - $60 per insert is a very high price to pay when you can purchase from the manufacturer of the gel who buttbuffer used for half that price and make 2 inserts out of the size they will send you. They no longer cut the shape for you which allows you more freedom to design a comfortable seat. ( use a pair of shears and silicone spray to cut it your shape) They also have the final layer that we usually put on the seat and it is a frothed gel which is absolutely amazing. (your ass will thank you for using this) You can do all that for way less beezachoppa.

I do not work for this company, I'm a biker/new tooler that wanted more comfort out of his seat and found the solution in Kemmler Products. You can visit them

www.kemmlerproducts.com

These are the guys that sold to buttbuffer and got them their reputation, I can't speak highly enough of Tom over at kemmler. He's been helping me make peoples motorcycle seats comfortable for a while now.

Your customers will want to kiss you !

Couple of question though..

Which beveler did you use to stamp with, those bevels are extremely clean, and so far mine have come out way too fat !

What weight are you using for the top of the seat? 6-7oz

Why is the side pieces of leather white?

www.kemmlerproducts.com has been mentioned before. i have not tried them yet. i get a better price than that from bbb as i have purchassed quite a few insertsa from them. looking at the prices kemmler wants for a cycle insert, i am paying about tha already or maybe a little less.

i only use the solid inserts and the ones from bbb are 1/2" thick not 3/8" from kemmler. i have been going to order some samples just have not taken the time.

i use barry king bevelers and 5-6oz leather for the top. i use a different leather for the side. that is the reason for the color difference

[Gray]

Thanks for taking the time to show us how you do your seats, Roger...a pic is worth a thousand words. Your tutorial answered several questions for me, and I believe I'll be trying my first seat in the next coupla weeks using your technique. Great job!

--Phil

[Roger]

Thanks for taking the time to show us how you do your seats, Roger...a pic is worth a thousand words. Your tutorial answered several questions for me, and I believe I'll be trying my first seat in the next coupla weeks using your technique. Great job!

--Phil

thanks phil!

let me know if can answer any other questions for you. i am all about pictures i learn a lot more from pictures than anything else

[steveb]

great how-to, i produced a similar story for American Iron Magazine about a year and a half ago with Duane Ballard...it was fun to do and readers really dug it - very few people outside our craft have any clue - they see it kinda like magic...

I've saved a bikernet tutorial from Paul Cox, Duane's and now yours - cool to compare an contrast techniques from those who really know bike seats... the one different twist to the way you actually assemble a seat is really smart to my eye - you stitch the seat top to the skirt flat and your skirt doesnt have a seam - you work off a flat piece of leather, not a seamed skirt at all... - you pull it tight as hell and really tuck and dart the nose - cool

and nice job on the seat overall, that sure is one crazy drop seat frame, i wondered why the pan was so wack, kinda of a shame to drown nice carved detail in black - but ya gotta do what is necessary

niice

steveb