Members Bolt Vanderhuge Posted December 3, 2018 Members Report Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) I have no problem with my RIA Cooks mold gun. Like I said earlier, it works perfectly for my officer sized 1911s. Take some calipers and measure it. What is the slide width and any other dimensions that you think might be off? I just measured the slide width of mine and it was 23.40mm. I then measured one of my 1911s and it was 23.40 as well. That is and exact match for my mold gun vs real ones. Edited December 3, 2018 by Bolt Vanderhuge Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted December 3, 2018 Author Contributing Member Report Posted December 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bolt Vanderhuge said: What is the slide width and any other dimensions that you think might be off? Thinking more about the height, measured from top of slide to under frame, which on this one is about 39.7, depending on just where you measure. Seems about .060" tall. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Bolt Vanderhuge Posted December 4, 2018 Members Report Posted December 4, 2018 So it is a penny too tall, is what you are saying? Build a test holster and try a real 1911 in it. See if you are ok with the fit or not. Maybe the one you got has issues. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted December 4, 2018 Author Contributing Member Report Posted December 4, 2018 Well, yes - kinda what I'm saying. Not teh right size. Either is it, or it isn't. And this one isn't. Could be just this ONE mold, though I'm not sure how they could vary that much and I have no intention of buying "dummy" guns in bulk to "pick out" the one that measures correct. If it's off by .010", or even .015", wouldn't matter. OR if it was UNDERSIZED by .06" a guy could easily build it up. Present condition, it might be fine for "training" someone who doesn't know guns not to shoot their foot, but pretty much useless as a holster mold. Well, for leather anyway. I don't do those holsters with a stitch line 1/4" or 1/2" away from the form (seems to be accompanied by a story to the buyer that they must not be doing it right) But again, not end-of-the-world type drama. Worst case, the little boys up the street have a new toy Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Bolt Vanderhuge Posted December 4, 2018 Members Report Posted December 4, 2018 I just measured mine at the front of the dust cover and mine vs the same 1911 as earlier. The mold is 0.02" bigger. Not sure if you are aware of this but 1911s vary by similar tiny amounts due to the multitude of different manufacturers. 0.060" is only 1/16". Take some sandpaper to the underside of the dust cover and sand it down to meet you needs. It shouldn't take much time at all. Quote
Members Bolt Vanderhuge Posted December 4, 2018 Members Report Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Ok I measured a few more. Mold gun is 1.544" (39.22mm). Para officer 1.543". 4" Springfield 1.534". 5" Colt 1.530". Colt Defender 1.520". Ruger commander 1.530. 5" STI 1.510. Dan Wesson CCO (the earlier gun) 1.524". A second DW CCO 1.525. DW Guardian 1.531". DW vbob 1.522". 5" Sig 1.515". Sig commander 1.515". Rock Island commander 1.507". My other 2 officers have tri-topped slides from the factory so they have different slide top dimensions. But even so, they do not wiggle in my holsters. The transition lines from the slide top to the sides is still in the same place so it still has a contoured feature on the top and bottom of the gun that matches close enough to that of the mold gun. But then again my mold gun is the same size as the gun at the top of the size range from the 13 I measured. Yours measures 1.563" so it is a slightly larger difference. It is 0.056" taller than my shortest one and 0.20" taller than my talest one. Edited December 4, 2018 by Bolt Vanderhuge Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted December 4, 2018 Author Contributing Member Report Posted December 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bolt Vanderhuge said: Yours measures 1.563" so it is a slightly larger difference. It is 0.056" taller than my shortest one and 0.20" taller than my talest one. Well, yah.. that's what I said Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Bolt Vanderhuge Posted December 4, 2018 Members Report Posted December 4, 2018 Like I said earlier just sand it down the tiny amount. This is a very fixable issue. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted December 13, 2018 Author Contributing Member Report Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) I don't "fix" molds (though I have been known to add .020" build up to make one fit less snug). So, then -- anybody got one of these they aren't currently using? I wanna BORROW it, check it. No desire to spend $60, $60, $60 ..... only to find out that none of them measures correctly. https://www.knifekits.com/vcom/cooks-molds-holster-molding-prop-for-sig-sauer-1911-42in-rail-natural-p-13500.html Loan me the gun, get back the gun and the pattern ... Trying to give Cook's a bit of optimism here ... benefit of doubt as they say. Hoping they aren't another one that sells you a piece of steel, calls it a "knife", but says YOU should sharpen it (the nature of being a "knife", it should arrive ready to cut what it is meant to cut). If they're all oversize, I'd like to know that. Edited December 13, 2018 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted December 13, 2018 Author Contributing Member Report Posted December 13, 2018 No? Well, at least we know how to end an endless discussion Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
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