Members johnnyblaze Posted April 28, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 28, 2019 Sorry for the delay on the photos. Been busy at work and haven't had time to play with the new toy.... It's an 8346-30. There are few areas that I touched up the off-white paint where it was flaking off the casting. My local hardware store was able to color match a quart of Valspar Rust Armor paint for me. (Similar to rustoleum). It's not as hard as the factory paint but I figure it's good enough for touch up. Haven't really had a chance to use it yet as I still need a stand and a motor. It came with what appears to be a regular home sewing machine motor. But the foot control is dead so I'm thinking I'll get a servo motor for it. Can anyone comment on the size of servo motor that would be most suited? I'm thinking I only need a small one. Has anyone ever tried putting a knee or pedal lift for the presser foot on a Claes? John. Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted May 14, 2019 Members Report Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) John I set them up on an off the arm stand with a servo motor and speed reducer. I can text you some pics if you would like to see it. What are you planning on sewing with the machine? You are missing the spool pin and thread holder that is below the bobbin winder. Can you send me a pic or two of the back of the machine. It looks like you have the zigzag attachment on it. sorry for the late reply. Computer been down for two weeks and no WIFI too boot. glenn Edited May 14, 2019 by shoepatcher more content to add Quote
Members johnnyblaze Posted May 14, 2019 Author Members Report Posted May 14, 2019 Glenn, I picked up an inexpensive servo from Amazon. The controller and motor are separate units so I can mount the foot control remotely. My plan is to build a pedestal stand similar to what Landis sells. I already have a steel plate for the base and the rest I'll build from 3/4" plywood with formica. Haven't completely decided what I'll do yet for a speed reducer. I figure I'll wait and see how slow the servo will run. One option I've considered is machining a larger aluminum pulley to clamp over the existing pulley. I have a Juki flatbed that I replaced the pulley with an 11" one I bought from an industrial supply company. I'm pretty happy with it. And yes, it does have the zig zag attachment. I'll post some more pics when I get the stand all put together. John Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted May 15, 2019 Members Report Posted May 15, 2019 I just sent you an email. Disregard it. I have only seen on Claes with a foot lift and that took some time to set it up but it was nice. Quote
Members Skygypsy Posted May 21, 2020 Members Report Posted May 21, 2020 Good Morning, apologies for joining this late but i have just got myself an 8346-20 so now have a lot more interest. the machine has the Claes motor with seems beautifully slow and nicely controllable. I do seem to have problems with setting up the thread and stitching with it though. The thread is breaking a lot and seems to stitch nicely for about 5 or 6 stitches then you notice the thread wearing and finally breaks. It also throws off the occasional loop on top of the work and i do end up with a knot of threads in below and around the robin in the lower gear case. To be fair I'm not sure about the needle on it, they seem similar in size to some i have but getting System 81 needles is causing me a problem. What actually is the difference with 81 system needles anyway? Finally does anyone have a repair/service/parts manual for this, i found an operating manual but the part at the end showing parts is all in German and not that comprehensive.Many thank TSG Quote
Members Constabulary Posted May 21, 2020 Members Report Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) Are you sure the machine is correctly threaded (top & bottom) and set the tension correctly? You probably need a larger size needle - note this thread / needle chart. What needle & thread size are you using? https://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html Needles can be found here: http://www.shoesystemsplus.com/Claes-Model-10-20-Needles-10-per-pack_p_352.html when looking at other sources make sure you do not buy DCx1, 81x1 or 81x5 needles, that's a complete different needle for overclock machines and the like. Please post some pictures of the threaded machine Edited May 21, 2020 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Skygypsy Posted May 27, 2020 Members Report Posted May 27, 2020 Are the Groz Beckett LAx 81 needles the right thing then? Quote
Members Constabulary Posted May 27, 2020 Members Report Posted May 27, 2020 If you have a #10 or #20 subclass machine- yes. If you have #30 subclass machine - no. The #30 needs System 88 needles (longer) Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members shoepatcher Posted June 8, 2020 Members Report Posted June 8, 2020 make sure your needle system is system 81 NOT 81 x 1. glenn Quote
Members MWLeatherWork Posted April 22, 2023 Members Report Posted April 22, 2023 My 8346-20 keeps throwing loops on the top and not completing the knot on bottom. I am sewing with 138 Thread Size and 22/140 needle. Quote
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