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Is 20 3/8 machine base correct for 21 inch table?

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Don’t want to deal with router if possible 

Table I found: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F223458310179

Machine I have is older Singer 138 post bed and bed measures about 20 3/8

Would it work? I assume those sizes should be somewhat standard, but 5/8 seem to be too big of a gap

They say it fits Singer 112, I wouldn’t think beds 1/2 or less different?

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( it say's ) . If it cut for the Signer112 with Hinge placement pre routed . the Placement of Hinges is what I would use for the ( reference/witness mark ) for fit, and it all falling into place .
If you taking your Singer 138,  and want hinges to fall into place on the cutout of that table . I just went back and measured the Singer 112 sitting in the back .
If you take both Hinge center's for a reference point . standing in front of the 112 . with the tape measure placed on the back-side of machine . with the 0" inch end mark, placed on R-side (belt end) of machine .
The Singer 112,  ' center '  of Hinges fall at the ( 3" ) and ( 12" ) mark of measurement .
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it no biggie after that if you need to do just a little trim or sanding fitting for the felt pads and corner bumpers, for getting the Head falling into a nice setting and height sit . Also same for your oil drip pan you going to need . It 'Easy ' straight forward to make a real nice one . Just get some Galvanized sheet metal and bend with some straight edges and fit in the table cutout . Then just the bare Pan and hit it with some primer and paint if you want before nailing it inside the cutout .

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Ok, it looks like 3 1/4 to center of first mount, 12 for the second mount pretty much spot on. Looks right? But it's closer to 20 1/4 total length of bed.

Does your Singer 112 look the same? And what kind of rubber mounts you have? I only dealt with machines where they have holes in bed, not those metal plate hooks

 

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Man that pretty close for you making it a fit .
The 112 table is cutout right @ 20 1/2" x 7"
And 'these' original Singer factory hinges of the 112 head are Oval-half moon shape and screwed down into the hinge cutouts . And that is what I looking at, and measuring for a center mark .
The aftermarket table you looking at has the normal cutout for a longer ( standard rectangle-shape ) drop-in hinge . So you probably have very little trouble getting a good workable fit .
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Hey .. I going to change that one Hinge center to  ( 3 1/4" ) . I just went and took more time to squared everything up . and that rear hinge really is closer to the ( 3 1/4") like your your 138 .
in the Pic. camera angle looks little off, but it just the lens angle .

I keep the old 112 set-up for just single-needle 'inside seam' binding tape . 112 is a double-needle machine. But it also works great as single-needle for jobs .
It is real old and I have had it forever. I rebuilt the whole both bobbin assembly a few years back and it just keeps on rolling along strong .
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Thank you! Ordered table, will see how it works 

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Anybody knows were do I get those table pieces for hinges? What is the name?

Ideally I need something to go into rectangular cutouts, but I can make those originals work too. Will have to glue in blocks and route correct openings..

 

 

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None of those will work..

 

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Yes, but those are not the same that you have (and I need) on you 112 table. Those fit regular machines with "holes" in bed. What you have in 112 has wider slot and 2 screws, they are different

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yes you are right, (was not paying close attention) that link smaller on the width that what you need.
But there are a crapload of 112's out there . It is going to be all about finding salvage for that age of hinges . And there are guys with a big collection of heads and parts but if there on a good working head, people not going to part with them . I only know one guy up here with a horde of old machines and heads, I will pop a text to him and see if will dig and look to see if he has a set of old 112 hinges .
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We have these flat hinge plates in stock.

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20 minutes ago, CowboyBob said:

We have these flat hinge plates in stock.

Bob,

Do you have round ones or maybe you have another solution to use those rectangular new style cutout?

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 We have these metal  hinges to fit on the head that will work with the euro style rubber mounts.

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I guess I was too quick judging by eBay pictures. Cutout size is correct, but mountings for old style hinges :(

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Had to glue in fillers and then do some routing but now all is well. Machine finally got "home". Now new problem - consew motor came with 2-piece rod which is short for normal height table!

 

 

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