veg tanned stretching and gluing question

[beltbuckles]

that bottom bag is very similar to what im making... does the v trim really help??  i have made some in the past without the v trim.  

 

i was thinking about making a "V" trim for  like laptop bags that  have a sharp "U" shaped gusset at the bottom compared to a larger wider ones with the purses that i've made

[RockyAussie]

20 minutes ago, beltbuckles said:

does the v trim really help??

Yes I use it fairly often and I never need to do any wetting which would damage the glazed skins either. Pics below. That is not to say that you cant make a jig to do it with wet moulding/forming techniques but that normally would slow the process down as you really want every thing dry before the gluing and stitching stages.

Are you going to have a bottom like this on a briefcase?

[BarkyKelpie]

@RockyAussie, thank you for sharing - I had an idea rattling around in my head that I couldn't work out how to do, you've answered a question I hadn't asked yet! 

[beltbuckles]

54 minutes ago, BarkyKelpie said:

@RockyAussie, thank you for sharing - I had an idea rattling around in my head that I couldn't work out how to do, you've answered a question I hadn't asked yet! 

are you refering to cutting a v in the round part of the side of the purse?

 

or just when to glue and when to wetmold

 

8 hours ago, RockyAussie said:

Yes I use it fairly often and I never need to do any wetting which would damage the glazed skins either. Pics below. That is not to say that you cant make a jig to do it with wet moulding/forming techniques but that normally would slow the process down as you really want every thing dry before the gluing and stitching stages.

Are you going to have a bottom like this on a briefcase?

 

i was thinking about cutting a v... i did it without a "V" but i want to be able to do it consistantly... there are some other designs that i was thinking about doing as well.. i may try one like the 3 parts of the gusset like you showed in the beginning parts...  also that motorcycle bag is georgeous!!!

[BarkyKelpie]

37 minutes ago, beltbuckles said:

are you refering to cutting a v in the round part of the side of the purse?

or just when to glue and when to wetmold

 

Neither, really - I'm very new to leatherwork but I have done bits and pieces with fabric, I was having trouble translating what I'd do with cloth and internal seams into what I needed to do with leather with external seams, it was really useful to see it all laid out and a few different styles too. 

Been agonising over it a couple of weeks, but the three-part gusset in Rocky's first post is gonna do just what I'm after. So cheers, Rocky, 'cause I was about ready to chuck a tooled panel and a couple of leather straps on a cloth bag and call it good! 

[RockyAussie]

1 minute ago, BarkyKelpie said:

Neither, really - I'm very new to leatherwork but I have done bits and pieces with fabric, I was having trouble translating what I'd do with cloth and internal seams into what I needed to do with leather with external seams, it was really useful to see it all laid out and a few different styles too. 

Been agonising over it a couple of weeks, but the three-part gusset in Rocky's first post is gonna do just what I'm after. So cheers, Rocky, 'cause I was about ready to chuck a tooled panel and a couple of leather straps on a cloth bag and call it good! 

Ha Ha ...glad you caught that in time then. It is a a very simple lay out pattern that is easy to work out how to make the measurements for and alter longer or shorter or higher etc. Only thing to watch for is if using a cylinder or post machine is to make sure you get the gusset set back enough to get the needle to reach where you want. On mine I can get away with 8mm from the bobbin case to the needle but that means I have to add at least another 3mm to the pattern corner. I generally go with about 12 to 14mm from the edge as a rule. Have fun

[RockyAussie]

1 hour ago, beltbuckles said:

also that motorcycle bag is georgeous!!!

Thanks, The end design is something I came up with to 1. signify a long road look over the handle bars but 2. the customer is a barrister and that to me represents the scales of justice as well. He loves it