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Looks like that edited version of the manual that's floating around is the one to use. Found it finally!

I still find it awkward to have to constantly flip pages when they refer to a figure, so I edited further and printed up just the drawings separately so I can have them right there next to the text I'm reading with no flipping. Freakin' yay.

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reg. larger hook / bobbin - a while ago I found this Video maybe it´s idea for you. ;)

And if you want to upgrade to a larger bobbin / hook it would be nice to if you could post some "measures" 

regarding paint job - Can't tell from the pic if the upper arm is rusty or dirty but why not painting just the flat bed in glossy black and leave the rest as is. AFAIK the earlier Jukis or Seikos had this too.

 

 

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Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2

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Thanks for the tip on the paint. I haven't had the time to decide yet how far I'm going to disassemble this thing in the process of just trying to get it cleaned up. But it's possible I'm gonna have it apart far enough that it wouldn't be much more difficult to just take the last few remaining things off and repaint the whole thing. Like I said, not sure yet. I ain't afraid of it, but I want to be at least a little bit practical if I can. I have already removed the hook and main shaft and parts from the underside of the machine (the bobbin area was packed and gross, so I started there). I guess I should have been capturing video for documenting the effort, dangit. Don't really want to do it twice, but I guess I could slip it back together for posterity.

Speaking of "not practical at all", if there's a desire for some detailed information regarding converting to the larger bobbin size, I'll be glad to take one for the team and just dig in and do it.

Constabulary! That video is awesome! I was looking for something exactly like that but nothing would come up. Must be YouTube's currently screwed up algorithm nonsense. In the process of censoring for politics, they made it so you can't find what you want to see either. Genius. Anyway, I was intrigued into the effort since the guy said he just had to buy the hook, take up lever and case opening lever. I was under the impression that converting not only needed more parts than that, but that the parts were much more expensive than ~$100.

SO... I've had bad experiences buying crappy clone sewing machine parts in my short history with it, so decided to buy what are described to be "jenuine Juki" parts (in fact the photo of the hook included a Juki part box sitting next to it). So rather than costing $80 as in the video, the ones I ordered cost $130. I figure that's still not bad considering tariffs & inflation from 2017 and possible quality upgrade.

The public has spoken... sounds a bit like a golf clap, but hey! I'm in... I'll take some accurate measurements and report back, hopefully with text and video both to suit individual preferences. I wish I had a set of applicable LU-563 parts so I could compare the other items which aren't included in this hack. But I'll do what I can with what I've got and let you know what I find.

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3 hours ago, 480volt said:

Totally off topic, but are you the same Vinito that owned the Gorton Mill Yahoo group?

Yup, same Vinito. About 100 years ago I scanned the 1-22 manuals you find there.

I haven't participated there for almost that long either, so I'm glad folks still find it a handy resource, but I just kinda outgrew interest I guess.

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Was a good thing up till the neo debacle. I was annoyed that the serial# data base that I’d been compiling was (I think) wiped out and gave up shortly after that. Still have an 8 1/2D though.

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Yeah, that tends to happen anyway. You get into something at the start because you need lots of info, then after a while it's just a machine you use now & then and even though it's still cool, you're not all excited about it anymore.

I'm sure the same thing will happen here for me. Once I get this machine all restored and using it, then get through a bit of other kinds of leatherwork projects, then it'll just be another hobby "notch in the belt" and something else will start to suck my time in another direction.

In the meantime I hope to have something to offer the world. In this case, I'm hoping to supply a specific recipe for converting a small bobbin to a large one for these machines. The parts are on their way so I'll be able to dig in a little hopefully later this week. I just completed cleaning up all the parts in gasoline - after pretty much totally disassembling the machine. It's a shell of a casting and four shoeboxes full of parts. Now that I've cleaned them up, I'm glad I dug in that far though. Everything had a coating of brown varnish on it inside & out, so it's all back to bare metal and oil now. I don't know, but I would think it will operate a ton smoother than it would have otherwise. It always bothers me on a project when I get more dirt on myself from handling the tools & machines than I get off the materials. This Juki should be pretty nice when it's done - large bobbin conversion and clean as a whistle with brand new paint job.

Here's hoping I don't screw it up! :bike:

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I doubt I took enough pictures or video. What have I done? Oh the humanity.

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I was looking in my paint stash and I have some silver, gold, black and bronze hammered enamel quarts. I wonder if I can mix a tad of regular gloss enamel (with the silver probably) to give it that touch of green without messing up the hammered texture? I'll try a small batch and see what happens.

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Well crapola.

Took the place I bought parts from only 3 days to tell me that the take up lever is out of stock and they don't know if they'[ll ever get it. They list it on eBay and Amazon both, and both say "in stock" and both the listings are still there. Morons.

Anyway, they are the only ones I could find for a while. I did find the parts on IndustrialMachineMan so I'm hoping that source isn't awful. Turns out the problem upgrading bobbins isn't the expense, it's finding the dang parts in the first place. It just seems odd to me that such a popular (albeit older) machine should be difficult to find parts for it. I wonder if the genuine singer 111 lever would be easier to find (probably not) and if it would even fit? Actually I wonder if there is even a large bobbin version of the singer variant...:dunno:

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Is this progress or destruction?

 

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