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Sam, a couple of photos of the Seiko and the 4500 with drop down guides. The Seiko is a piece of aluminium, the right hand screw is the supplied mounting screw, the second one is a longer one I had to go into the existing mounting hole and the third is the other supplied screw, tapped into the aluminium.

The 4500 is simply an L-shaped piece of aluminium ('cos the mounting holes on the machine are vertical) and a couple of screws and nuts to hold the guide. Pretty simple really.

 

Drop down guide - Seiko 1a.jpg

Drop down guide - Seiko 2a.jpg

Drop down guide - 4500 1a.jpg

Drop down guide - 4500 2a.jpg

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Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500.

Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)

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3 hours ago, dikman said:

Sam, a couple of photos of the Seiko and the 4500 with drop down guides. The Seiko is a piece of aluminium, the right hand screw is the supplied mounting screw, the second one is a longer one I had to go into the existing mounting hole and the third is the other supplied screw, tapped into the aluminium.

The 4500 is simply an L-shaped piece of aluminium ('cos the mounting holes on the machine are vertical) and a couple of screws and nuts to hold the guide. Pretty simple really.

 

Drop down guide - Seiko 1a.jpg

Drop down guide - Seiko 2a.jpg

Drop down guide - 4500 1a.jpg

Drop down guide - 4500 2a.jpg

Thanks mate! Super helpful! Who makes your guides?

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20 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

Ferg, I believe you had a CW, not a CH. The CH is a 441 clone of the Juki TSC-441. Yours is a clone of a Singer 153.

http://www.seiko-sewing.co.jp/en/products/cwseries/

Just a little fact check: The Seiko CH-8B is NOT a clone of the Juki TSC-441.

They may look similar at a superficial glance, but upon closer inspection they turn out to be totally different designs.

It seems Seiko looked at both the Adler 205 and the Juki TSC-441 to design a new machine that incorporates a few design elements from both Juki and Adler, and then added their own design elements. For example, the arm and shuttle design looks almost identical to an Adler 205, but the presser bar arrangement and top feed mechanism on the Seiko is totally different from both Adler 205 and Juki 441. The Seiko uses a rear presser bar arrangement that is offset to the side instead of in-line with front presser bar and needle bar, like both Adler and Juki use. Presser feet from all three machines are definitely not interchangeable with each other.

Seiko detail (notice the offset rear presser bar and foot):

IMG_0757.jpeg

 

 

 

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Sam, I bought them off Aliexpress, they were cheaper than ebay.:) They're pretty much the same thing regardless of who sells them.

Uwe may have pointed out the only real reason to consider the 4500 instead of the Seiko - spare feet availability?

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Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500.

Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)

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Thanks all! Super appreciate the help, I’m going to go with the seiko, it comes with a spare set of feet, and I’ve found a guy in aus with a couple more. 

thanks again

sam

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Nice. I reckon you'll be happy with it.:specool:

Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500.

Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)

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