Members TomE Posted November 13, 2022 Members Report Posted November 13, 2022 7 hours ago, ScottWolf said: Beeswax is a good ingredient to use with NFO , as it retards the NFO from oxidizing ( some people erroneously use the word rancid to describe oxidization). Interested in learning about the components of beeswax and which one(s) are antioxidants. The biochemist in me thinks rancid describes the result of animal fat and protein oxidation (?). Quote
Members ScottWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Author Members Report Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, TomE said: Interested in learning about the components of beeswax and which one(s) are antioxidants. The biochemist in me thinks rancid describes the result of animal fat and protein oxidation (?). Tom, here is a good paper that discusses beeswax, section 7 specifically. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827872/ Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted November 13, 2022 CFM Report Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, ScottWolf said: Tom, here is a good paper that discusses beeswax, section 7 specifically. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827872/ good article if your going to eat the stuff. I have only found one study on leather productshttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/43285442_Leather_coated_with_mixtures_of_humectant_and_antioxidants_to_improve_ultraviolet_and_heat_resistance Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM chuck123wapati Posted November 13, 2022 CFM Report Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: good article if your going to eat the stuff. I have only found one study on leather productshttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/43285442_Leather_coated_with_mixtures_of_humectant_and_antioxidants_to_improve_ultraviolet_and_heat_resistance wow such an asociation exists https://www.researchgate.net/journal/Journal-American-Leather-Chemists-Association-0002-9726 Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members ScottWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Author Members Report Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, chuck123wapati said: good article if your going to eat the stuff. I have only found one study on leather productshttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/43285442_Leather_coated_with_mixtures_of_humectant_and_antioxidants_to_improve_ultraviolet_and_heat_resistance It's not about the eating of it as much as it is about how it reacts with other ingredients. There is a reason why there is a preponderance of leather care and conditioner products that use beeswax and its by products in its formulation among the other ingredients that are mentioned in previous posts in this thread. Quote
Members TomE Posted November 13, 2022 Members Report Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, ScottWolf said: Tom, here is a good paper that discusses beeswax, section 7 specifically. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827872/ Thank you, Scott. I'll check it out. 2 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: good article if your going to eat the stuff. I have only found one study on leather productshttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/43285442_Leather_coated_with_mixtures_of_humectant_and_antioxidants_to_improve_ultraviolet_and_heat_resistance Thanks, Chuck. Good stuff! 2 hours ago, chuck123wapati said: wow such an asociation exists https://www.researchgate.net/journal/Journal-American-Leather-Chemists-Association-0002-9726 Did not find this reference. Is the link complete? Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted November 13, 2022 CFM Report Posted November 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, TomE said: Thank you, Scott. I'll check it out. Thanks, Chuck. Good stuff! Did not find this reference. Is the link complete? the link works for me? it is to the site only not a document. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Members TomE Posted November 13, 2022 Members Report Posted November 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: the link works for me? it is to the site only not a document. Got it. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted November 13, 2022 CFM Report Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, TomE said: Got it. all kinds of cool sciency stuff about leather. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
CFM chuck123wapati Posted November 13, 2022 CFM Report Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottWolf said: It's not about the eating of it as much as it is about how it reacts with other ingredients. There is a reason why there is a preponderance of leather care and conditioner products that use beeswax and its by products in its formulation among the other ingredients that are mentioned in previous posts in this thread. your right beeswax has been used for thousands of years on leather and many other products. Mostly to seal and or waterproof the product its applied to. I've never read or heard of its primary use being to prevent NFO from going rancid, if it does that's great too!! . Beeswax rocks don't get me wrong i use it for about a half dozen different potions mostly very old concoctions for wood leather textiles and such. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
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