Hello all,I guess the Cowboy Way is gone in one guy's eyes.Such a shame,one day maybe he'll grow up. Quien sabe?? I build a few saddles and have the luxuery to ride a lot of horses daily also. I think my prostier is slightly educated.I prefer a all leather ground seat for my personal saddles ,both work and show and the ones I build.They just fit me better. I build what I ride and sell the same.I use a Tennie Haws tree,I've 3 left,Leson style, 3" laid back cantle,they are sure nice. Now, that should start some conversation. I need to talk to Keith and try some of his trees.They should be the same. Any comments on trees ?Hell of a post in ground seats. Thanks. Any how, my thoughts, Clint Haverty