Hi everyone thanks for your opinions you said what i was thinking. Thought i might of been dissed for not wanting to teach him. I knew everybody has heard " how do you do that i would like to learn " Then your in that awkward moment yea Hilly i never have told him how i feel ,he has a way of coming back over and tells me whats hes going to do like he forgot where he heard it from . I think he's told so many people he forgot whos idea it was or is convinced it was his ! CRAZY drives me up a wall . So one day he told me about a rag he gets so i pull it up on the site and bingo there is his latest creation so that tells me he has no creativity . Luke & Mcjeep you guys are so right when credit isnt given when credit is due ! I guess i have to learn to stop being a nice guy when my 6th sence is kicking in. And Timd PERFECT the beginner kit and just in time! and with Christmas right around the corner AWESOME !And Terrahyd thanks for the words of wisdom .And Johanna i think your right on theres a time and its over do . Your not going to believe this i just now as im typing he calls me, asked me where i got my engraver WOW WOW still cant believe this, nows hes going to engrave his aluminum parts on his bike LIKE I TOLD HIM I WAS DOING and have done some already . And engrving is not my invention but what i was going to engrave is. See this has been a 4 yr project because i want it done the way i want it i have my everyday rider so i can take my time plus (money) but now he has used every idea i have told him so Mcjeep your so right i need to stop hanging with this bonehead.I've been covering up my bikes when he comes over now i gotta start getting in his head start f****** with him thanks everybody were on the same track that makes me feel more welcome in here ! Thanks again Raleigh