I just found this group, too. Lots of interesting discussions going on. I hope to learn some things. I have built saddles and related gear full time for nearly 25 years. Maybe about 10 years ago I started to focus primarily on pack equipment along with lots of chaps, chinks, accessories, and cut back to just a few custom saddles a year. I've always felt there's alot more to learn, particularly about trees and fitting. I'm also interested in discussing ground seats, leather versus metal strainers, construction, etc. My favorite customers are outfitters or trainers that ride alot of different horses or mules and we're fitting type. I don't do the orders to micro fit one particular horse, but I've done it in the past. Mostly it worked out, but in general I've come to think it's asking for trouble in a lot of ways. Looking back I know I have made some mistakes over the years. The ones I know about I've fixed. I went to Rod and Denise's website. There's sure a wealth of information there and as soon as I have a chance I'm going to sit down and really study on it. Looking forward to learning some things and maybe even contribute some.