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150$ round knife? I think you can do as well with a NT or SDI cutter which will set you back for 20$. Which size of Tandy Pro 2.7 or 3.0 (I believe made by Since) pricking Irons did you buy? Is the size of the Maine thread matches well with your irons size and thin enough for watch strap? 9-12 prongs would be ideal and easier to prick a straighter line. Checkout a crafter from Belgium: Atelierdecoster on Instagram. He does very nice watchstrap
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Thanks again for all the advices you share. It was extremely helpful. As a hobbyist my number one struggle is finding time between Job, Family and social commitments, Keeping physically healthy and other mundane obligation and time for leathercrafting. I am lucky this to arrange some time this year to visit two leather tanneries; 1) Wickett & Craig in Curwensville PA (I am visiting a relative 3 hours away) 2) Horween in Chicago IL (wife work conference). I will try to learn the basics of the material we work with.
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If you have access to Instagram, there is an australian leatherworker: carswell_leather , who is not a big fan of KS Blade. He posted on June 23, 2021 a small video where he shows the pricking irons he has and used. He has Kevin Lee, KS Blade, Amy Roke, Wuta and 4Z. He prefers Amy Roke over the KS Blade. Because the thick body above the teeth (similar to Sinabroks, offshoot of KS Blade both Korean) blocks the view of the teeth from above. I also saw a video where the thick body that protrudes from the handle above the teeth bumps against the round body of a briefcase handle when he tries to prick the leather under the handle. I think it all comes down to personal preference. You need to carefully match your need and aspiration (what you plan to do) to your constraint (KS, Amy Roke ain't cheap). The list of Pricking Irons I looked at is Huge: KS Blade, Sinabroks, Amy Roke, Kevin Lee, Crimson Hide, JunLin, Pro Atelier Plus, Rocky Mountain Leather, ZJ Handiworks, Jayme, Beagle, Doldokki etc. It is very hard to choose. I personally have a set of Junlin/Leatherworkschool Collaboration and Rocky Mountain leather. Mainly for their price.
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Thanks, I have not seen many crafters do it this way but I have seen your BiFolds and they are pretty spectacular so the result speaks for itself.
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Front side interior . So I think technically you can punch through 4mm of leather even with a Vergez Blanchard Pricking Iron. To an untrained it actually doesn't look too bad. I rushed so a couple of stitches are messed up and I have not finished the other side (But the holes are punched through).
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Sorry again for being late to this topic but previously I read that European Irons/Chisels are meant for marking only not punch through. I believe that most modern European(French) Irons/Chisels can be used to punch through to about 4-5mm thick leather (9-10 oz) with their slim and long teeth (ref. Kevin Lee, JunLin, KS,Sinabroks, ZJ, Beagle, Craft Jayme etc). I could be wrong please let me know. I even committed the most sacrilegious act by punching through 4mm of combined French Chevre and reinforcement using a Vergez Blanchard #8 Pricking iron (the class was given by a French teacher to boot). I know that it should be strictly use for marking follow by the awl. but here is the result, The backside of a clutch I made (2 x 1 mm French Chevre + 2mm Reinforcement with Campbell's Satin Laid Linen thread 532 or 832 I forgot).I will send front side (interior)
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Thanks again for the tips, I will have to try this. May I have a couple of questions? 1) You use a wine cork on the backside, so do you clamp your wallet on a vertical stitching clamp? I have seen some crafters lay down their work on a flat rubber/cork surface and literally use an awl to go through the punched/marked holes from the top layer. 2) Do you stitch with an awl on your hand or you use an awl only to open the holes? 3) When you sharpen your awl do you keep its Diamond shape or you sharpen it to a straight blade? Thanks for the great advices as always.
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Following up on my previous about the OKA Diagonal (french style) and Diamond Chisel I manage to sew quickly for comparison. Note the leather is very low quality scrap leather. From Left to Right 1) OKA 5mm Diamond w/ Ritza 1.0 mm and John James 002 aka #2 (It is actually the same size as #1 or #3 i.e. 1.02 mm DIA and 54mm Length) 2) OKA 4mm Diamond w/ Ritza 0.8 mm and John James 004 aka #4 (0.86 mm DIA and 48mm Length) 3) OKA 3.5mm Diagonal (French Style) w/Vinymo #8 System S+U #5 4) RML 3.85mm Diagonal (Euro Style) w/Vinymo #8 System S+U #5 5) JunLin 3.00mm Diagonal w/ Xiange #30 System S+U #7 6) OKA 3.00mm Diamond w/ Xiange #30 System S+U #7 Personally I don't think the OKA 3.5 mm Diagonal (discussed in earlier post is not too bad especially considering how cheap that chisel is compared to the budget RML or the Junlin. The biggest drawback is that the biggest they offer is 6 Teeth so If you have long stitch line it is far from ideal. Their 3.00mm Diamond is also a surprise because of the high SPI I expect worse performance but it holds its own. My wife (with a western background) loves the low SPI and the thick thread, I prefer higher SPI and thinner thread. I would love to hear from all of you on the topics of chisel size and thread and needle selection.
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https://www.instagram.com/industrialdesignconcept/ I hope this work sorry I am pretty bad using the different platform. It is one of their latest post for a contest. In the comment section you get many leathercrafters describe their favorite combination and sometimes their journey and evolution. I found it very informative.
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If you have access to Instagram there is a recent post by "industrialconcepts" who makes stamping machines and many great leathercrafters share their irons-thread size they use (Peter Nitz, Carswell Leather, Mila Jito etc.)
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I can only speak with my limited experience. I've been making a few wallet and passport holder and never even use a Diamond Awl as a lot of chisel/irons nowadays are made to punch all the way through. And the resulting stitch is pretty good on both sides. I recently took a formal Leather Marquetry class taught by an experienced leathercrafter (we have a formal leathercraft school here in Montreal, Canada with a 3 years leathercraftsman course) . She taught me the traditional way with an awl and a French Style clamp. The result was pretty awful. The stitch on the front side is OK but the backside is pretty crappy as you cannot see the other side with the clam between your leg and you have to poke through the leather with your awl). I understand that if you are making bags, or dealing with thicker leather, you have no choice but use an awl. But the learning curve is pretty steep. I found it easier to just punch through than mark with a pricking irons or wheels (that is what everybody used years ago) and lead with an awl to pierce the leather, If you make items which are not too thick.
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Hi, thanks Danne for sharing your advices. I second this advice as I did a little bit of research to chose my tool purchases. I happen to own OKA chisels both in Diamond Chisels and their "French style " chisels. Their "French Style" which they call Diagonal Hole Punch IS NOT a Diamond Hole Chisel (punch). It does not end in a point, it is a straight line so you need to align them like regular French Chisel. I joined a picture of the differences in the hole they make. From Left to Right: 1) OKA 5.0mm Diamond Chisel , 2) OKA 4.0mm Diamond Chisel, 3) OKA 3.5mm Diagonal French Chisel, 4) RML 3.85mm French, 5) Junlin 3.00mm French 6) OKA 3.00 mm Diamond Chisel. This was made on 2.00mm Medium Firm Veg Tan leather. The top part is after the holes are tapped down before stitching. As you noticed the OKA Diagonal French Chisel is very different from the other two but also very different from the Diamond Chisel. So I would not call it a Diamond Point or Chisel. As far as the Original Post concerned you are quite spot on with your recommendation (knowing that you have experienced with Meisi thread). I started out like most leathercrafters with Diamond Chisel/Irons and Ritza thread. but I like now European/French Style with Meisi Xiange thread. Totally depends on what you do and the aesthetic you want to achieve.
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Would anyone know how this stitch was done with the three colours? How is it done ? Can you refer me to a link with video if possible how it is done? Thanks It is from a Delvaux ads. Thanks
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Follow me on my journey evaluating edge paints.
NDphung replied to Danne's topic in Leatherwork Conversation
I will absolutely follow your progress. you are a great source of information. I will try edge painting on veg tan leather this year so your selection will influence my first choice for sure. We have a leatherwork school in Montreal and I just took my first course in leatherwork. They use a French edge paint that I have never heard before; Stilz Have you ever heard of this paint company. hey seem to have an extensive leather paint selection?