fur sewing machine Fur sewing machine information.

[Luxrien]

On 4/25/2022 at 2:43 AM, Sammetje999 said:

Dear leatherworkers,

Some machines are just ment for a select group of people because it's not something you use every single day unless it's your job 

But that doesn't mean there has to be a shortage of information about it.

 

I will tell my experience with a fur sewing machine so that I may help others.

About a month ago I bought a Allbrook & Hashfield fur sewing machine. They told me it was serviced but it didn't want  to sew properly. So I started searching and searching but I couldn't find a lot of information. Not even proper manuals.

I found lots of videos of people using it but non of them where useful for me to tune and service my machine.

After a lot of research and looking at my machine I didn't want to wait any longer. I was going to service it myself and either ruin it or fix it.

First of all my machine uses Schmetz 459R needles. Also called EB X 1567.

I found that the looper arm was to high and not in the correct placement with the needle.

So I loosened the needle bar and took it a bit backwards. I also loosened the looper arm and put it a bit forward. Now it was in the perfect location, just before the eye of the needle when it came back (just like on a sewing machine with shutter hook).

So now the height of the looper arm. I inspected the machine and saw 2 bolts. I loosened them and now I could move the looper arm up and down. I carefully put it about half a millimetre about the needle plate and tightened the bolts.

Now I was ready to try to sew again.

And low and behold. It worked!

 

I would like for everyone to out down information they have about the fur sewing machines. Doesn't matter if the models or brands are different. Maybe someone will find it useful.

I will put some pictures from my machine to show what I loosened and tightened.

 

Hopefully someone will find it useful.

 

Kind regards,

Sam T.

 

 

Has anyone been able to find what kind of oil is used to fill the large reservoir in the bottom? Will any low viscosity (or higher viscosity) auto oils be usable?

[xnikolaos]

Any plain mineral or motor or sewing machine oil of higher viscosity is fine. Motor oil will, over time, stain your sewing machine with pigments, but these oils provide good protection and lubricity. I am sending you a photo from the bonis sewing machine manual for oiling.

[Luxrien]

17 hours ago, xnikolaos said:

Any plain mineral or motor or sewing machine oil of higher viscosity is fine. Motor oil will, over time, stain your sewing machine with pigments, but these oils provide good protection and lubricity. I am sending you a photo from the bonis sewing machine manual for oiling.

Oh wow, thank you for taking time to reply! I have two bonis never-stops and a consew that this would apply directly to, so it incredibly helpful. Ill have to give it a try here with the A&H, hopefully the internal pump still functions well.

[JazzVinz]

Hello !

Thanks for all the infos.

I joust bought a Bonis A18. My grandfather was a furrier and I watched him a lot while working when I was a kid.

While trying the machine, I saw it was skipping some stitches. When doing manual the 1st stitches were good and then only 1 / 2 or 3, and none with the electrical motor.

I tried to change the thread but didn't change anything except I broke the needle (292 serie). I think my threading is good.

I have found a way to buy new needles (bought 3 different sizes 16, 18 & 20, but doesn't know what size to chose...).

I would like to know what can I do to fix the stitiching problem, if anybody as an idea

[toxo]

1 hour ago, JazzVinz said:

Hello !

Thanks for all the infos.

I joust bought a Bonis A18. My grandfather was a furrier and I watched him a lot while working when I was a kid.

While trying the machine, I saw it was skipping some stitches. When doing manual the 1st stitches were good and then only 1 / 2 or 3, and none with the electrical motor.

I tried to change the thread but didn't change anything except I broke the needle (292 serie). I think my threading is good.

I have found a way to buy new needles (bought 3 different sizes 16, 18 & 20, but doesn't know what size to chose...).

I would like to know what can I do to fix the stitiching problem, if anybody as an idea

No doubt someone will come along who knows your machine but you need to make sure that when the needle starts it's upstroke there's a loop and the hook holding the bobbin thread goes through that loop. If that's not happening you won't get a stitch. Could be it needs re timing, wrong needle size, check spring not letting off to allow the loop.

Sorry, thought it was a first post.  Should have read from the start  .

Edited February 6, 2024 by toxo

[JazzVinz]

2 hours ago, toxo said:

No doubt someone will come along who knows your machine but you need to make sure that when the needle starts it's upstroke there's a loop and the hook holding the bobbin thread goes through that loop. If that's not happening you won't get a stitch. Could be it needs re timing, wrong needle size, check spring not letting off to allow the loop.

Sorry, thought it was a first post.  Should have read from the start  .

It was a first post... I might should have opened a new one...

Edited February 6, 2024 by JazzVinz

[depodarcom]

On 4/27/2022 at 11:01 AM, Sammetje999 said:

I also put a small seeing machine motor on it by making a wooden plate underneath.

Unfortunately I do not have the space to put another sewing table somewhere

The machine is relatively small now and works pretty well. Just have to find out why very thin materials don't work poropper and thicker materials do.

Thank you for your explanation. Due to space problem I also want to change motor and table. How can you solve opening feed plates without having table (without foot pedal how can I open feed plates) If you can share your project photos I will be glad to see