DA669 complete binder set

[Constabulary]

my spool holder has no bearings and is not causing drag issues. It´s an old ADLER all metal made model and the spool core is sitting on a tube that spins around plain round shaft. Never tried something else as it always worked well.

College Sewing in the UK has some tape racks:

https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/accessories/chair-stands-table-tops/tape-racks

Maybe worth checking with them because of binders. Maybe they know a source in the UK for custom made binders or can even offer one that suits your needs (don´t know).

https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/folders-attachments

 

Edited June 9, 2022 by Constabulary

[TonyGreen3455]

regarding letters:
Atlanta
they were asked to provide examples of base material and binding tape as well. it is not a problem, but... due to we make bags to order, our range changing almost weekly.
so, my common sense tells me that I need to post the heaviest materials I can use for it, and probably light stuff (the same width) will go through the same binder easily - am I right?
I can order 1 only - what you would suggest? 

Germany and Durkopp - still in progress
College Sewing UK - a few letters sent, no answer so far... a bit strange.

I found Italy-made binders here: https://armastore.eu/cf-1507-raw-edge-tape-binder-6-mm - is it worth it?

 

regarding spool holders - looks like the longest length we can use is around 1.5m only - I can not see any reason to buy it. 

[kgg]

40 minutes ago, TonyGreen3455 said:

regarding spool holders - looks like the longest length we can use is around 1.5m only - I can not see any reason to buy it. 

The advantage of a spool holder it allows you take advantage of the lower per meter cost vs small flats. In the long run it is a lot cheaper to buy say a 304 mm (12 in ) diameter spool holding 150 meters of binding tape then a 4m flat of binding tape and you wind up with less wastage. On short runs once you are finished just pin the end to the spool and store for latter use rather them throwing out the unused piece left over from the flat.

 

57 minutes ago, TonyGreen3455 said:

my common sense tells me that I need to post the heaviest materials I can use for it, and probably light stuff (the same width) will go through the same binder easily - am I right?
I can order 1 only - what you would suggest? 

Yes the thinner binding tape will go through easily but there lays the problem. If you put a thin binding tape say .2 mm through a binder that is custom made for 1mm tape it may have to much free space to wonder around and have a tendency to slide about inside the folder which may affect how it feeds over the edge of the material.

I think you need at least two binders one to handle the 1mm thick tape and another one that can handle the typical thickness size of binding tapes you use. 

1 hour ago, TonyGreen3455 said:

I found Italy-made binders here: https://armastore.eu/cf-1507-raw-edge-tape-binder-6-mm - is it worth it?

The cost is about €99.00 or $133 CAD or $104 USD that to me is expensive. For the price of one of those binders I can buy 6 standard binders. I do have some of those style binders from when I bought all the new old stock binders from a company going out of business last year. I will check and see what sizes I have. To cost will be awful lot cheaper.

kgg

[TonyGreen3455]

9 hours ago, kgg said:

The advantage of a spool holder it allows you take advantage of the lower per meter cost vs small flats. In the long run it is a lot cheaper to buy say a 304 mm (12 in ) diameter spool holding 150 meters of binding tape then a 4m flat of binding tape and you wind up with less wastage. On short runs once you are finished just pin the end to the spool and store for latter use rather them throwing out the unused piece left over from the flat.

for fabric ribbon it is a must, but I can't imagine how to bend and hold in the same spiral shape 1.5m leather tape - imho - it always will try to go out of control, etc.  
may be tape holders/platform with a small border can help on it? 

 

Yes the thinner binding tape will go through easily but there lays the problem. If you put a thin binding tape say .2 mm through a binder that is custom made for 1mm tape it may have to much free space to wonder around and have a tendency to slide about inside the folder which may affect how it feeds over the edge of the material.

I think you need at least two binders one to handle the 1mm thick tape and another one that can handle the typical thickness size of binding tapes you use. 

fully agree.

my plan - to buy a full set (binder, moving arm, needle plate, feet) from KH and on top of it - to order or buy a special made binder for heavy materials.

 

The cost is about €99.00 or $133 CAD or $104 USD that to me is expensive. For the price of one of those binders I can buy 6 standard binders. I do have some of those style binders from when I bought all the new old stock binders from a company going out of business last year. I will check and see what sizes I have. To cost will be awful lot cheaper.

kgg

 

[Constabulary]

keep in mind - the UK no longer is in the EU so for everything you import from the continent or elsewhere you have to pay 20% VAT + tax on top.

I don´t know the 669 but I assume the binder brackets are the same as for the 69

https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/parts-by-machine/durkopp-adler-parts/durkopp-adler-69-parts?p=4

I would check with College Sewing, they sell KH binder and stuff as well. When the UK was in the EU I ordered everything from them (I´m in Germany).

When ever I had a question I was in touch with Justin  -->>  Justin[at]college-sewing.co.uk 

 

Edited June 11, 2022 by Constabulary

[TonyGreen3455]

8 minutes ago, Constabulary said:

keep in mind - the UK no longer is in the EU so for everything you import from the continent or elsewhere you have to pay 20% VAT + tax on top.

I don´t know the 669 but I assume the binder brackets are the same as for the 69

https://www.college-sewing.co.uk/parts-by-machine/durkopp-adler-parts/durkopp-adler-69-parts?p=4

I would check with College Sewing, they sell KH binder and stuff as well. When the UK was in the EU I ordered everything from them (I´m in Germany).

When ever I had a question I was in touch with Justin  -->>  Justin[at]college-sewing.co.uk 

 

taxes are not only an issue now - many EU shops simply stop sending goods into the UK due to tax/custom headaches, etc. 

many thanks for the email, will try to get in touch directly.

 

 

[shoepatcher]

No  brackets different.  SAme as 867,868,869.

 

glenn

[TonyGreen3455]

thank you, Glenn

 

can anyone find a difference between these two (9$ difference in price) - it is from KH shop

both - for small-sized Cylinder Bed Machine,  For thin leather and plastic materials.

apart of brass/white metal - looks similar. 
is it because of brass? brass-better?

any ideas?

 

 

[TonyGreen3455]

On 6/11/2022 at 8:52 PM, TonyGreen3455 said:

thank you, Glenn

can anyone find a difference between these two (9$ difference in price) - it is from KH shop

both - for small-sized Cylinder Bed Machine,  For thin leather and plastic materials.

apart of brass/white metal - looks similar. 
is it because of brass? brass-better?

any ideas?

 

 

upd from KH

"the base bracket of KHF2 can be adjusted the position and removable, but the base bracket of KHF66 is fixed"

At the same time KHF2 looks budget and stamped from metal sheet instead of solid brass body of KHF66. 
Issue not in look only, but IMO brass corners can be easier handled and polished for a light movement of leather.

what would you prefer?

[kgg]

On 6/11/2022 at 7:52 PM, TonyGreen3455 said:

can anyone find a difference between these two (9$ difference in price)

As promised these are what I have found so far in this style of folder. The 32mm binder has a adjustable front binding tape guide and the small two hole 1" has a built in tape guide. If you are interested pm me. These are "new" old stock.

kgg

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