Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 22, 2023 Some of you may remember the old shelf I built and expanded a year or so ago. I have begun to outgrow it. I also use a table that moves. UP and Down and rolls around the shop if needed. I want to anchor the next shelf to the table without damaging the table, so after some thought, I decided not to go a LOT higher, and wider was the choice. This gave me several advantages. Here is the old shelf unit. This unit is about 36" wide and 24" tall and currently accommodates my most used tools, but as I added tools I found that some wouldn't fit the slots I had, and some just didn't have slots available. I didn't have space for the mallets, and the drawers in the work table are full. I will go wider, to the full width of the table, and up to 36". I played around with various designs, and came back around to the same concept, just an extra shelf at the top for more storage. Being wider I could add space for the mallets and lots more stamps in the tool bar, then more slots for additional tools in the second shelf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 22, 2023 I spent several days playing with layouts, then finally went to Home Depot and bought the wood. Today, I cut the cedar 4x4 to length at 50-1/2 inches, allowing for the side panels which will make it 52" when assembled, the width of the table. Then I began to lay out the hole positions. Increasing the number of holes for both the thick shaft stamps and the thinner stamps. With the extra length I took my time and finally laid them all out in pencil. Once I got them all laid out in pencil and was satisfied with the positions, I used a center punch to set the positions. I was going to drill them with forstner bits on the drill press but didn't want to struggle once I started looking for pencil marks. The punch also made sure positioning easier. I drilled 33 holes on the left with a 1/2" bit, then dropped down to 3/8 for the remaining holes on the right. the last five single line holes were drilled with 1-1/4 (4) and 1-1/2 (1) to accommodate the handle sizes of the mallets and shoemaker's hammer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 22, 2023 I had to spread the work on the tool bar out over the day. A man has to know his limitations. But, I got the holes drilled. I'll use a countersink to round the edges of the top of all the holes later. The next step will be to make the new second shelf, cutting the slots and drop holes for tools in the new wider shelf. The tool bar looks pretty good for an old man... Here is a look at the progress so far... more tomorrow if I'm not too beat up and have to rest for a day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PastorBob Report post Posted February 22, 2023 Looking good. That is the setup for stamps that I had when I started. Added a second on for a total of 8 feet of drilled holes. then changed again to accommodate more stamps, etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 22, 2023 Got out this morning and started on the second shelf. This one, like the old one, will hold the tools that hang by the handles or drop in the holes, like the swivel knives, the bevels, and the stitch groovers, etc. I marked a center line first, then marked the spacing for the 3/4" holes, the 1" holes and the 1-1/4" holes. Once I had the spacing marked in pencil, once again I got busy with the centering punch and mallet. Careful punching of the holes insures that the forstner bits will cut in the correct location and give me a nice line when all the holes are drilled. I noted the location to change bit sizes ON the line, as the bit will cut away the notations. Once all the guide holes were punched, once again it was time to move to the press. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 22, 2023 Now that I have all the holes drilled, I'll mark the lines to open the 3/4" holes into hanging slots as the next step when I go back out. Once that is done, it will be time to move to router work. I'll route the edges of the slots, and the inside of each of these holes. I'll save that to the end, just before assembly, as I'll route all the edges of the shelves and the edges of the sides, for aesthetics Much more to come... hang with me if you are interested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 23, 2023 Afternoon session let me route the sides and the inside of the holes of the shelf, and also knock out routing the edges of the tool bar while I was at it. I have NOT fine sanded the shelves and may not. A pass or two before assembly but this will be a working rack and I'm not planning on putting a finish on it. I routed the edges to knock the sharpness off them, and to ease the movement in with the tools. Next step on this one was to cut the slots and route those cuts. I cut all but THREE of the marked slots, deciding that I wouldn't use as many slots as I would the drops in the future. Next steps involve making the additional shelves for storage of dyes, paints and finishes; and the side panels. Then a couple passes with the sander to remove splinters. I will also ADD the rack for the letter and 3D stamps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 24, 2023 Got back at it and knocked out the extra shelves. Got all the edges routed and was ready to start on the sanding. First I matched up the edges on the two sides and marked the location of the shelves. Prior to beginning the sanding, I set up the homemade downdraft sanding table. I made this years ago, and I have used it often. I hook the dust collector to the end and sand ON the downdraft. It reduces the dust by 95%. I love this thing. Tomorrow morning I will check the various aspects of the shelves, make sure the tools fit the slots, the holes, etc. Then I will drill the pilot holes and countersinks for the screws... Boom, we'll be go for assembly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 25, 2023 I went back out after all the work and decided I wasn't happy with the second shelf with the holes and hanging slots. Too much time and effort had gone in the build so far to settle, and when I was routing, I had already broken one of the "Teeth" of the slots off and had pinned and glued it back in place. The job was so well done you couldn't tell, but... I decided to redo that second shelf with some changes to the layout. To strengthen the teeth, I would widen the spacing from 1-1/2" between the centers to 2" I had also checked the usability of the original layout, and discovered I didn't need as many of the 7/8" holes. I marked more points for 3/4" holes, fewer 7/8" holes and only the one 1-1/4" hole. The layout was completed, and I centerpunched the holes. Next, I took to the drill press. I suspected that one of the reasons I had broken off a tooth, was that the forstner bits tended to break out wood on the back of these boards even with the backers, I first drilled pilot holes all the way thru, then set the press to drill slightly over halfway thru on the first passes on the front, then flipped the board and drilled the rest of the way thru. Worked perfectly, clean passes on all. The next step was to mark and cut the slots, route the edges and the interior of the slots and drop holes, and then sand the shelf. Looking good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 25, 2023 With the basic pieces done, I needed to drill the countersunk holes for the shelves in the sides of the unit. careful layout and a forstner bit for the countersink and that was knocked out. No step was rushed. The layout. Center punch the marks Next drilled the pilot hole for the screws and then the countersink for the plugs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 25, 2023 Careful assembly was begun. First glue was applied to the ends of the 4x4 block that IS the toolbar. Using 1,2,3 blocks to raise the angled 4x4 into position and the wife to help stabilize the sides, we slowly screwed the tool bar into place, then put a band clamp around that first assembly to help the screws pull it tight. Next, using a neat assembly cheat, I placed two wood bars at the next shelf level and clamped them in place, and glue was applied to the ends of that shelf. It was laid on the wooden bars, set flush with the front of the shelf and screwed into place. Repeating this process saw the shelf unit assembled. When it was assembled and left for the glue to set with band clamps in place, it was Nearly Done. What remained was to figure out how to put either back panels or rails on the back of the two upper shelves to keep supplies from falling out the back. I "Thought" I had a sheet of Luanne left. I took a break then came back out and ripped the replaced shelf down both sides... getting the lumber to make the shelf rails. Both rails were glued on the ends. The lower shelf was glued along the bottom and clamped The upper shelf is floating, and was pinned and glued. All that is left to do now is to sand the plugs that were installed to remove any glue and insure they are flush. It will also remove any stray pencil marks, basically the shelf is done. I'll post one more pic from the front empty, then with the tools and supplies in place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hags Report post Posted February 25, 2023 Looking good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Klara Report post Posted February 25, 2023 Great job! I want one, but I'm too impatient to work so cleanly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted February 25, 2023 Nice looking build along and I am sure you will love the extra space. I keep meaning to make some new prettier stamp holders and general hand tool holders but my impatience hasn't allowed me to yet! For some reason I am fascinated with the brass head mallet with the wooden handle, Did you make that? I have a zillion things that could be used to hit a center punch but that is just pretty...do tell more about it please Best Ross Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Rossr said: Nice looking build along and I am sure you will love the extra space. I keep meaning to make some new prettier stamp holders and general hand tool holders but my impatience hasn't allowed me to yet! For some reason I am fascinated with the brass head mallet with the wooden handle, Did you make that? I have a zillion things that could be used to hit a center punch but that is just pretty...do tell more about it please Best Ross It's a woodworking mallet, I think it came from either Lee Valley or Woodcraft. When I go out to the shop this morning I'll check to see if the brand logo is still readable. It was purchased years ago just for setting center punches or seating nails on fine woodwork. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 25, 2023 I looked it up, and I was pretty sure it came from Lee Valley Tools. https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/mallets/110896-veritas-journeymans-brass-mallets I have had mine for more than a decade, maybe two, and used it a lot. It's still a handy little tool, great for setting small nails and center punching. I use it a lot when making presentation boxes and the like. Here is a closer look. I felt it was worth every penny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rossr Report post Posted February 25, 2023 Hey thanks for the response and the close up and the link! I wonder how they attach the brass to the handle. Cause I've got some brass round about hmmm, back to your build sorry didn't mean to derail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 25, 2023 Went out this morning after all the glue had a chance to cure, and sanded down the glue lines and squeeze out. I sanded all the plugs flush. Sanded away any pencil marks I might have missed. This is a working shelf and I don't plan to put a finish on it at this time, but I didn't (CAN'T) just throw it together. I want it to look halfway decent. I cleared off the leather working bench and set it in place and then for Safety's sake I had figured out how to secure it. I cut a jointer plate in half and screwed both sides to the bench top. Now, it shouldn't be able to slide sideways, NOR tip over forward or back. If I ever decide to use the table for another application, I can fill the holes and touch them up with oak stain, they will barely be noticeable. Here is a front view of the shelf, EMPTY.... Here is a view of the shelf loaded up. 4 minutes ago, Rossr said: Hey thanks for the response and the close up and the link! I wonder how they attach the brass to the handle. Cause I've got some brass round about hmmm, back to your build sorry didn't mean to derail Hey, always happy to share, it's how we learn. Check the website, they say how the head is attached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 25, 2023 Last view, of the side. Note that I am so anal I countersunk and plugged the holes, then sanded the plugs flush. The wife always laughs at me for this kinda stuff, but when SHE sews, quilts, or crochets, she's just as bad. If I was to stain this; those plugs would POP! I put a screw in this side to hang the Optivisor and one on the other end to hang the leather strop for sharpening the cutting tools. This will help keep the desktop clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eglideride Report post Posted February 26, 2023 Awesome design and execution. Enjoyed following along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted February 26, 2023 Great post, I enjoyed it. I too use a centre-punch on wood in situations like that, makes it much easier to drill the holes in the right place! Good move making a new shelf with the slots, when I saw the first one I figured it wouldn't take much to break those fingers. I wonder how long it will be until you've outgrown this setup and need something bigger? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 26, 2023 I need a bigger shop but won't build one. When we moved from Virgina to Oklahoma I had JUST built a custom workshop with everything just so. I had a custom builder come in and build it just the way I wanted. Heavily insulated, 10' walls and perfectly lit. Plugs around the walls at 4', every eight feet, windows HIGH up the walls for light but the wrong folks couldn't see in. Climate controlled, finished interior and bright white walls to reflect the light. Then, the pockets of democratic voters put a bought politician in office and we moved out. HE paid back the billionaire who bought his governership by giving away the state. I regretted walking away from that new shop and my few good friends... but .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 26, 2023 I wasn't going to spend another $50,000 to build another shop so I adapted the old workshop at the new property. I might insulate the other half of the building and open up the wall to add a bit more space down the road... but I'll likely just make do. The health won't allow the size projects I was tackling in the new shop in VA... I mainly build smaller projects to use around the house and stick more to cutting boards, knives, presentation boxes, leatherwork... so I'm good. The shelf on the leather bench? I can add side tool bars if need be. LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 27, 2023 The next project for the Shop Itself? To put in climate control I had to seal the huge roll aside door. I can only stand for short periods and I use my wheelchair in the shop. It won't fit thru the side People door of the shop. I sealed the roll aside door by using six cans of spray foam around the door to keep the heat and air inside. You can tell the difference by looking at the white foam vs. the dark yellowish professionally sprayed foam on the rest of the walls and ceiling. If you look in front of the tractor in the pic below you can see the outside of that roll up door.... before I sealed around the door, it would swing in and out on the wheels it was hanging on, the lock allowed about two inches of play at the very bottom. That let a lot of air exchange, so the new Mini-split had a hard time maintaining the heat or AC. Once I sealed it, 68 degrees year round. The next project is to frame in that area as a wall, with a double door 4 to 5' opening. I can get the wheelchair in and out, and bring materials directly into the shop without having to go in thru the secondary rollup door of the boathouse, seen over the tractor above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brokenolmarine Report post Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) My plan is to frame in the wall from the inside. Once that's done, install the new door, cover the inside of the wall with 1/2' plywood. Then we'll roll the old door aside and remove the metal sheeting, with the insulation intact and apply it to the outside of the new wall. Once that is accomplished, I'll remove the metal framing of the rollaway door, and then the tracks. May add a small awning to insure no leakage. There is a slight gap between the carport and the barn. As we get closer, we'll draw up detailed plans and materials list and check on available door sizes. Edited February 27, 2023 by Brokenolmarine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites